It wouldn't be a very long book, but I'm sure it would still be 19.95 if you purchased it on system.

It's kind of a funny when I think about it. Before I started selling stuff, I was already 90% certain I was going to leave Quixtar when that year was up. I just decided I didn't want to leave having lost as much money as I did to that point. Weird…when I was "fired up" and showing the plan a lot, I never got over 500 pv and when I decided to quit Quixtar at the end of the year and sell stuff in the mean time I hit the 1000 pin and the 2500 pin in no time.

You should write a book about it and sell it to Q IBOs. = )

The difference is, I know Passport associates that are producing real volume in the thousands of dollars without the 2-5 year lie or the tools scam.

You hang your hat on 1.5 billion in sales and I am saying that those sales are based on a lie and a scam.

Leaving your personal business out of this, perhaps a better questions is, what percentage of Quixtar's sales occur outside of the 2-5 year lie and the tools scam?

Back on point, Quixtar doing 1.5 billion does not help the average IBO turn a profit. In fact, if the average expenses and income are analyzed, it appears as though the average Quixtar IBO loses money.

Dave,

Is there anyone doing even 2500PV without the tools scam?

But as MLMers, if we preach due dilligence to our prospects, then that usually entails checking out the stability and endurance of a company; including it's sales performance.

Many MLMers express their faith in a company that is publically traded and whose stock can be tracked.

In a privately held company, we have no stock price to point to. We rely on other factors like: Years in business, type of compensation plan, total sales, et cetera.

So I don't think sales figures are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Also if you point to the fact that "company sales" have no bearing on the individual effort of a new IBO, then how can you justify the MLM critic who asks for an Individual IBO's Schedule C, before the critic would join Quixtar or Passport?

The personal schedule C would be compared to the MLMer's "company sales" figures.

The Schedule C would be irrelevant to what the new prospect or Average IBO would earn in his OWN activity.

Just my observations on the discussion.

Dave

I could care less if Quixtar released it's sales figures. Spouting off figures like 1.5 billion does not help the average IBO sell products and sponsor people. It's an irrelevant number when it comes to the profitability of distributors.

Quixtar had a great chance to evolve and inovate with regards to the tools business and they didn't do it. Time will tell where that will leave you.

On that topic; IF next year they do NOT release figures, will they be accused of not being honest? Will they be able to use the defense that they are a privately held company, just like Passport?