I do make money selling information products, but I provide these products to my team at EIRO for free. I don’t charge my team for training, because I make money when I help them succeed.

I like this response, because of the #2:

“The System Doesn’t Work”

If the system works – there’s nothing wrong with profiting. You and I both make money selling blogging, marketing, etc products to our team and the generic MLM community.

I think the actual problem in Amway/Quixtar is 3 fold:

1. The system costs are abusive – it’s one thing to profit, but another to abuse it.

2. The top guys don’t know how to recruit anymore, (in a lot of teams), so the training sucks on actual sponsoring.

3. They’re secretive about the tool money (In my organization, it took me 3 1/2 years to get my upline to admit that there was money made off of tools – I would have loved the idea, had I been told when I started)

I love some of those Amway tapes, and still have a closet full and listen from time to time, but when it comes to training, almost every MLM company has better training on how to BUILD the business.

The worst training on recruiting I’ve ever heard in my life is Bill Hawkins ‘Prospecting In The 21st Century’

It has hundreds of thousands of people wandering around in shopping malls to grow their business.

I’d rather do almost anything else for a living.

That being said – I don’t think discounting what Amway has created is entirely smart.

I created an offline system that uses elements of what I learned in Amway for my own team, but the profit margins are way less, and my whole team earns a 1 level affiliate pay for it to cover their own costs.

There is some value to it – regardless of it’s abuse.

-Dave Wood

I also wonder how many of your new downline are "former Quixtar IBOs". I would probably guess it's a majority of your business. I know it's just speculation and I could totally be wrong, but I don't believe you're out there "contacting" as hard as Quixtar IBOs do. I would think it's much easier to coerce (probably not the word I want, but you know what I mean) an IBO who's not had the success he may have expected into telling them how much better your business is than what they are currently doing. Which I believe is unethical. I have never in my time in the business told how their business is "the devil" or whatever and attempted to bring them into my business. I've always encouraged them to succeed in their endeavor and I've even led people to Passport when some of my own downline felt that the "system" wasn't for them.

Too bad you aren't doing that anymore. Are you going to delete all your posts which talked about how great Passport was and how they didn't like using "titles" or complicated compensation plans or high start-up costs w/ expensive products? I would probably have so much respect for you if you build your business through your own merit rather than putting other people down. There are people in my organization who are focused on retail and on helping their downline grow and not just to the "ones in the system". Are they Diamonds yet? no, but are they making money? yes they are and have fun doing it w/o putting down people who have jobs or in different businesses. people buy products and get in their businesses because people want to follow them and support them. I'm not in the Winters system, but I do truly respect them and almost every week I get Kates on the growth in their team.

And yes, your business may not have the hassle of "greedy kingpins" w/ systems, but please don't mislead people that Oasis is different than any other network marketing company in the industry. There are people with doubt, skepticism, and quitters in ANY business. The only thing is, since you don't have a system like the AQMOs, the quitters in your business doesn't have anyone else to blame except for themselves now. Ty, if YOU quit, it's not Oasis' fault, it's YOURS. Not your upline, it's YOURS. But, since we do have AQMOs, it's of course, their fault. Ty, I would follow you if I had a reason to. With all the blogs you've created and all the work you've done, I admire your work ethic. You definitely have the potential to be great. Coming from a guy you don't know, but with good intentions…

I love the way you ignore all facts and go about your day thinking that you are right.

The leaders make money on the system by scamming people like you. It's not that hard to figure out.

I ask again,

If the system doesn't work, then HOW could they make any money?

As to your answer-with-a-question response,

"isn't the purpose of the system to help people build a profitable Quixtar business?"

Yes it is…and my answer, YES it does!!!

Thanks for playing!

Of course the system works for the kingpins. They are making all the money while they brainwashed their ibo's.

I leave the B.S. for you, my friend.

If the purpose of the system is to be a profit center for the leaders, then it works fine.

However, isn't the purpose of the system to help people build a profitable Quixtar business?

You're contradicting yourself on a couple of points:

"1. The leaders make money on the system."

"2. The system doesn't work."

If the system doesn't work, then HOW could they make any money? You can't have it both ways. Either the system is working, or it's not. In order for a "system", any system, to make money, it has to work doesn't it?

Your line of reasoning doesn't make any sense. I am sure you'll come up with some B.S. that can explain it.