10 Responses to “Has Rob Davidson Ever Been an Active Quixtar IBO?”

1. insider says:

   December 26, 2006 at 5:16 pm

   Where in the video does Rob Davidson give any advice about building a Quixtar business?
2. Ty says:

   December 26, 2006 at 5:53 pm

   "…this is how this business works…you make money based on how hard you work and how much effort you put in…"

   The statement is partially true.

   However, it ignores that fact that the Amway/Quixtar reputation is virtually saturated with ill-will in the United States.
3. Doug_G says:

   December 27, 2006 at 6:07 am

   He sounded like he'd had too much eggnog at the company Christmas party.

   Only a handful of critics are upper level achievers in Amway/Quixtar. However, I think most of the critics are so critical because they did try or were close to someone who tried, worked hard, and had almost nothing to show for it.

   Davidson represents the company…of course his view is going to be horribly skewed. I'm sure it helps that Rob has never been an IBO.

   Maybe he can address why Scientology and Amway get compared to one another in the media? I'd like to hear his take on that.
4. insider says:

   December 27, 2006 at 12:32 pm

   Doug – the video had been slowed down to make him sound drunk. In any case, I have posted a list of prominent critics that were *never* IBOs. I personally, and probably Quixtar as well, don't give a damn about most of the people QBlog listed. They're barely even on the radar and have very little influence.

   Ty – that's the best you could come up with?
5. Ty says:

   December 27, 2006 at 1:58 pm

   Insider,

   Davidson is talking about what it takes to build a Quixtar business. I honestly don't think he knows a damn thing about actually building a business and I suspect that most diamonds (at least out of hearing range of the company) would agree with me.
6. insider says:

   December 27, 2006 at 6:19 pm

   I think your focusing on a rather minor not even secondary topic of the video.
7. Ty says:

   December 27, 2006 at 8:08 pm

   Brilliant!

   "What it takes to build Quixtar" is a rather minor part of this equation?

   Would you rather talk about the compensation plan that might be the most weighted towards the company in the industry or the fact that Quixtar/Amway have the worst reputation?
8. insider says:

   December 28, 2006 at 6:47 am

   You keep making this "reputation" claim – got any evidence at all to back it up? What about the "weighted to the company" claim? According to documents from publicly listed Amway companies, Amway pays out twice as much to IBOs as it keeps in profit.
   "what it takes to build quixtar" is quite irrelevant with regard to whether "critics" have experience or not, yes.
9. Ty says:

   December 28, 2006 at 9:38 am

   Name a Network Marketing company that is still in business and has a worse reputation than Amway/Quixtar in the United States.

   Quixtar pays roughly 32-34% back to the associates. I believe that the average in the industry today is 35-45% back to associates.

   When Amway was launched, Rich and Jay were not millionaires, they chose to put food on their own tables first. Understandable since there was nothing to benchmark the concept with.

   Well today, you have hundreds of companies in the U.S. and many have equal to or better products and many pay better than Quixtar.

   Add "reputation" into the equation and it is easy to see that there are better alternatives.

   I happen to be a critic with MLM industry experience inside and outside of Amway/Quixtar.
10. formeremerald says:

    December 28, 2006 at 1:21 pm

    greetings. all of this is very interesting conversation fodder. your "bottom line" analysis will of course depend on whether you are considering MLM in general or A/Q specifically – but speaking as someone with about 20 years experience in MLM, most of which was somewhat successful as gauged by the companies we were associated with, 15 years with A/Q, 2 years with a failed startup and 2 plus years with the third (and hopefully final) company, I think I can say with some certainty that (1) A/Q like all businesses takes a tremendous amount of time and resources to become solvent and successful, (2) that you really need to analyze all comments, mine included, based on the timeframe that we were actively building the business. For us that was 1989 to 1999, and (3) the return (financial and other) that was received for the investment (time and money).

    My bottom line is that our A/Q experience was beneficial in many ways. For one, without it I do not think that we would have the success we are currently enjoying in our current venture. The lessons that we learned, both good and bad, are instrumental in our current success.

    Now, is the A/Q compensation plan as rewarding to the associate/distributor as others – No. Is the majority of the BSM business controlled by a small group of large pins – yes. Does A/Q corporate cower to these large pins because the large pins control a large portion of A/Q volume – yes. Was this (and is this still) a "secret" amongst the lower level IBO's – maybe, but the net has gone a long way with shining the light of truth on this issue starting way back in the day with jeff probandt.

    well gotta go, maybe more later…..

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