More Comments on Amway UK Sanctions

Posted on 07. May, 2007 by Ty Tribble in Amway


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The following is from the owner/author of Get The Facts, he also known as Insider or IBO Fightback around the Quixtar online community.  I reported the Amway UK sanctions letter as authentic from the beginning because I had two seperate sources telling me it was the real deal. On with the comments...

I have refrained from commenting on the email until I had confirmation it was authentic, I now have that confirmation and a little more information. The situation with the Department of Trade and Industry is a real issue, and leaders have been aware of it for some months. As has been the case in other markets, some IBOs, and indeed some "systems" have not operated in what I would consider a professional manner. I've had reports in the past, for example, of Amway UK and Ireland IBOs being taught by their group to invite friends around for dinner, then at the end of the dinner, bring out the whiteboard! Such deceptive techniques are explicitly against Amway rules and highly unprofessional.

Additionally, Amway Europe has had in place for some time rules limiting the amount of BSM IBOs may purchase in the first 3 months in the business. It's my understanding these rules have been ignored by some groups.

An IBO with business in the UK I have been in contact with has clarified the following  -

  • Sponsoring is postponed
  • BSM sale is stopped until it is (re)-approved.
  • Meetings with an entry-fee need written approval.
  • The business has not stopped, the sale of products have not been banned!
  • The income opportunity is not closed
  • Meetings are not banned

He goes on to point out -

This is not unique to the UK. It works fine in many countries (including China and Russia) where similar regulations have been in place from the opening of the business due to local government regulations. Those markets are not sleeping... :-) The IBO organisations I know of are not planning to sue Amway, they are cooperating with Amway to get the DTI issues cleared properly.

I'll have more information as it comes to hand, but as it is a public holiday in the UK today, this may take a little while. It appears that what has happened is that the Quixtar Accreditation approach has been made compulsory and implemented immediately by Amway UK and Ireland in response to concerns expressed by the UK Deparment of Trade and Industry. Such "shock therapy" is what many critics have been calling for, whereas Amway and Quixtar has tended to take a more "softly, softly" approach to implementing change. The UK market is a potential sleeping giant for Amway, with very little market penetration, which hasn't been helped by the deceptive practices and over-selling of some IBOs. It will be interesting to see the effect of these changes.

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7 Responses to “More Comments on Amway UK Sanctions”

  1. ibofightback

    07. May, 2007

    Isn't wholesale copying of entire posts a copyright violation?

    You should ask first Ty.

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  2. Ty

    07. May, 2007

    IBO,

    You really want to play this game? How much traffic have I sent your way since you launched your site?

    C'mon dude. I quoted a portion of your post and gave you full credit.

    A little cranky tonight?

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  3. ibofightback

    07. May, 2007

    You took nearly the whole post Ty. Just pointing it out – you appear to do it a lot on your site, and it's actually illegal.

    As it is, consider yourself to have permission, as long as it is sourced and linked.

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  4. Doug_G

    07. May, 2007

    whiner

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  5. Ty

    07. May, 2007

    IBO,

    You are a piece of work. You moan and complain that the internet is filled with biased information and then I post your comments (including a link to your site and obvious quotes) and you throw a mini-fit.

    If you think I overstepped fair use laws, sue me. Oops, I forgot, you can't sue me because you want to remain anonymous.

    Next time I'll post your entire article without credit and you'll like it.

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  6. ibofightback

    07. May, 2007

    man, talking about cranky – and it's not me. No "mini-fit", just pointing it out. I'm not just talking about my posts, you whole quote posts from blogs and such all over the place. I've no urge to sue you – I just gave you permission! But give your extensive blog network, someone will sue you sooner or later..

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  7. Ty

    08. May, 2007

    3,000 + posts and only two people have made mention of this. One of them, I quoted two sentences from and he threw a fit, so I removed the link to his blog and the two sentences. The other one is you…Mr. IBOBigShorts.

    Anywhooo…back on topic. Additional diversion will be deleted.

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