This is true.

However, in many hotels and seminars prospects are told, "you get in spend 10-15 hours of your free time and in TWO TO FIVE YEARS you are Diamond, and financially free". Wether Orin is wrong or right, it is a rather small statistic. And no, you can't just say 594,000 of that sample group are lazy or "not working it".

Mind you I think a Q12 income even if it takes ten years beats 99% of the deals out there. Why shoot ourselves in the foot with inflated promises?

Quixtar is a great opportunity, sweeping issues under the rug is a big reason why it has some of it's reputation problems, much of them warranted.

I know, I have a grand idea…Let's figure out how to make one of the worst Network Marketing compensation plans work for us…

…rather than find a compensation plan that is actually working…today…for people of all colors.

Presentation and manipulation issues aside, let's assume for a minute the statistics stated are accurate. So what? Does that necessarily say that it doesn't work, or rather does it say that a certain segment of the population were the ones working it at the time?

Obviously, the operational parameters of the business don't change from one person to another person. The only real variable is what an IBO brings with them (or doesn't bring with them) when they start building their business. Theory: Perhaps because these folks didn't have the same exposure to the business' critics early on, as someone born in the US may have, they just took the opportunity and ran with it, while others carried along a bunch of baggage, slowing or inhibiting their success.

One would think that, in the US, not having english as a primary language wouldn't exactly be counted as an advantage in building a business largely driven by sales and conversation. So, I think a more interesting question is, what did these non-US natives do to make it work for them?

So there'd be no need to be pissed, it's still a pretty good deal

As for the 600,000… are they "new" IBO's? Because before 1999 there was no 'Quixtar', they'd ALL have to technically be 'new Quixtar IBOs, correct?'

So, the question is how many of the 600,000 were FORMER AMWAY distributors that just carried their business (or what was left of them) to Q?

If that is the case, and the 600,000 included the "transfer IBO's", then some people were already Emeralds in 1999 and they have 5 years to solidify it can go Founders Emerald… but you know what? They didn't.

Many Emerald businesses fell back to NOTHING. My upline emerald DID go Founders Emerald (1 of 3 that did go Founders around 2006 that were Amway Emeralds. One of the other three was Steve Fishman, and his wife).

Now, my upline is actually in Diamond qualification… In fact, he's the only darn person in BWW that is in Diamond Qualification. He's been in Amway/Quixtar almost 20 years..

I think the fact of the matter is, why are IBO's still showing a 2-5 year plan, when it clearly is NOT SO

And, sure, the products may be overpriced. Fine. But the corp isn't passing alot of that money back to the IBO's. Hence for the "tools system income"… If it took me 20 years to make $150-200K Quixtar income, I'd be pissed too… But add another $300-500K tool income on top of that, and NOW we're talking…

And now you know why Winters, Crowe/Dussault, and others have broken away from Britt.. they're saying "show me the money!"

I could go on and on on this topic forever..

I thought so too until I found him on myspace and facebook. It looks like another IBO may be lying about his income. Awesome more deception.

Joseph Lowe
http://www.detoxandzeolite.com