iJango and Google?
Posted on 21. Jul, 2009 by Ty Tribble in Network Marketing News
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A few days ago, we broke a story that exposed the truth about the connection (there was none) between Efusjon and Facebook.
Along the same lines I am hearing about a connection between iJango and Google, Yahoo and Bing:
Like the following comment here at MLM Blog:
If you read this site over the last few weeks, it might seem like it is an Anti-MLM site. The truth is that the authors, Dan Mitchell and I are both advocates for the MLM industry. We both believe in the business model and we are both involved in the industry.I forgot to mention that Google, Yahoo, Bing, and lots of companies are already on board with Ijango.
But as we do research for the MLM Blog, we are running into so much hype, lies and garbage from new companies like iJango and Efusjon that we really have no choice but to expose it. (Typically associates of new companies are the real culprit, but there is little doubt that Efusjon looked the other way until the MLM Blog exposed them).
Spreading obvious lies like Google, Yahoo and Bing are "on board" with iJango will cause significant harm to the Network Marketing industry when people find out the truth.
iJango is no more connected with Google, Yahoo and Bing than the MLM Blog. As a matter of fact, I got an email from Google yesterday, offering me a consultation on the ads that are placed on this site. Does that mean that Google is on board with the MLM Blog? Hardly.
iJango's model has been tried in the past and the reality is they are paying Network Marketing compensation on recruiting. By just about every definition I read, that equates to a pyramid scheme.
The most recent company that had a similar model was Ad Surf Daily.
Ad Surf Daily is now out of business as a result of being shut down by the U.S. Attorney's Office,
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derek nadeau
22. Jul, 2009
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Mac Newcomb
22. Jul, 2009
The above commentary about iJango and Google is true, there is no connection between the two.
However, the comment about iJango having a similar model to Ad Surf Daily in not true, there is no model similarity what-so-ever.
I know because I was a member of Ad Surf Daily and I'm currently a member of iJango.
I can't imagine how someone could compare the two models, unless there was some sort of incentive for doing so.
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Mike
23. Jul, 2009
Well lets see…
Ad Surf was a pyramid scam…
iJango is a pyramid scam…
The only people that made any money in Ad Surf was the company and a select few at the top.
The only people that will make money in iJango will be the company and a select few at the top.
Ad Surf lied and misrepresented itself to recruit followers / reps.
iJango is lying and misrepresenting itself to recruit followers / reps.
Ad Surf was shut down the US Attn. General.
iJango is headed for exactly the same end.
I don't know but it seems to me that they have a great deal in common thus far.
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Mac
27. Jul, 2009
OK…you speak like you know what you're talking about, so let's put it to a test…what's the definition of a pyramid scheme, the exact definition, not what you've heard from your buddy at the bar? Also, what's your connection with making those accusations? Were you involved in some way, are you involved now…what's your motive…anybody can make general statements, but that doesn't make them true…you need to get better educated before you speak…but that takes a little bit of work so I'm sure you'll just reply with more of the same.
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Ty Tribble
27. Jul, 2009
An illegal pyramid scheme:
"They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public."
So tell me, how much revenue has iJango created outside of recruiting revenues?
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Mike
27. Jul, 2009
Mac,
I'm not certain if you comment was directed at mine but assuming it was….
Here's an excerp from the FTC's definition of Pyramid Scheme.
"Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure."
You can read the entire definition for yourself at http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.shtm
As to my connections, I've been in the NM industry for years and I'm sick to death of this kind of activity in this industry.
It's difficult enough to deal with the stigma this industry already carries. These kinds of schemes just reinforce that stigma!
My motives are pretty simple. I want to do what I can to point out hype and lies in this industry. It damages us all and makes our work just that much harder. If in the course of pointing out lies and scams when I see them I can help another person avoid being taken, all the better!
As for education, I'm sufficiently educated to understand that when someone makes a claim it is incumbent upon them to offer proof of that claim.
My very first test of any business opportunity is to challenge claims that seem overly optimistic. People involved in iJango have made several such claims.
When those claims are challenged I consistently get a defensive accusatory reaction, (much like yours), that seek to have me disprove their claim.
Sorry! IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
If you make a claim it is up to you to offer up some proof.
To date, not one single person, (out of nearly 100), have offered a single shred of proof to back up the iJango hype! And the only real numbers that are available are those related to recruiting.
If you have some proof to back up iJangos claims I would be delighted to see it!
I do hope that this answers some of your concerns.
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Ron Potter
30. Jul, 2009
Very Interesting info Ty. I just seen a video with some guy from Ijango. He stated he was partnered with the ex-CEO of Excel. Interesting to know they are not what they claim to be.
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Mac
06. Aug, 2009
Hey Mike, no problem, why don't you set up an appointment with Steve Smith, the founder and chairman of iJango, and get your concerns answered first hand, then there will be no more speculation. But don't try to give an unbiased opinion about something when you're obviously biased. I believe in this industry and want to protect it as much as you do, but if you truly want to help it, then stop making opinions about companies when your involved in one…there's just no way to be unbiased. Until then, give me a break. I can't help what individuals claim or say, most of them say things that aren't true, granted some knowingly, but some unknowingly. Most new reps don't have a clue as to what's truth and what is not…it's not necessarily their fault that they make claims that are incorrect not accurate, it's mostly due to the fact that they have not yet been properly trained. Anyway, thanks for the rebuttal, but lets put this to rest…if you truly want to find the truth, set an appointment with Steve Smith and let him know you represent the MLM industry, and get it from the horse's mouth, not all this opinionated speculation. Thanks!
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Mike
06. Aug, 2009
Hi Mac,
Odd you should mention that. As a matter of fact I sat down across a table with Steve Smith just a few months ago. I was briefly involved in Ultimate Choice Travel.
I ask him if UCT was being funded primarily by travel product or by recruiting. He was annoyed, looked me right in the eyes and ask me "Have you ever made a million dollars a month? You really should try it!" I smiled and told him I'd love to… and asked my question again. He excused himself and wasn't seen again. I had my answer! And that ended my relationship with UCT and Steve Smith companies.
I sat in on an ijango webinar last night and it's the same old hype and lies. The same tired lines I heard in UCT. The same matrix pay plan that's designed to keep any one group from getting too big. Same thing, different name and it's headed to the same end as every MLM Steve's been involved in since Excel.
Why? Dishonesty! Hype! Lies! "DHL" the business killer!
I agree that some of the lies are being told by people that don't know any better. But you know what, their still lies! And no one is attempting to correct them.
You guys, (although not you personally), are spreading news that Google, Microsoft and others are "partners", "singed contracts", "on board", etc… I've even seen a video titled…
"Google To Pay IJango Directors Monthly Residual Income"
Check it out yourself!…
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3058129/google_to_pay_ijango_directors_monthly_residual_income/
What are you going to tell Google's trademark and legal people. "Well, these people don't know any better"? "They weren't trained!"… Good luck with that one!
You see, once you set this kind of garbage loose, you can't control it. The lies continue to spread until Google and the rest get sick of it and you see that headline… "Google and US Attn General Sue iJango"… and your done!
I never claimed an unbiased opinion, just an educated one. You see mac, I'm involved in several MLM's, have been for many years, (and no, you'll not find me hawking for business in my posts here).
I know this business, I know people and I know BS when I see it.
I'm just trying to point it out so that good people don't step in it.
Best to all!
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Lee
07. Aug, 2009
I have been looking over a variety of MLM opportunities in hopes of finding one that would actually aeperate itself from all the garange and hype that goes on with a majority of MLM's out in the world today. The two MLM's I have done home work on are being run by former Excel Henchmen; IJango, Steve Smith, and Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Paul Orbeson. I have thought abouinvesting in either or both companies but I keep seeing RED FLAGS, cause if it walks like a duck, quack like a duck, and smells like a duck, in still might not be a duck but it sure as hell aint a bear, meaning that by all accounts these two companies have the appearance of being a PYRAMID Scheme and at some point the market will be saturated to the point that the businesses will no longer support the recruits at the bottom. Any thoughts
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Rick
07. Aug, 2009
There is a dangerous possibility of having IJango actually GETTING money from it's Pyramid Scam. I was involved in a telemarketing travel business, paying an increasing amount of dollars every day to the main marketers as Google, Yahoo, MSN, and others, thru different programs as pay per click, adwords, banners, etc. The cost per converted lead was outrageous mainly because of all the fake "customers" clicking on our ads. IJango knows it, and that could be the source of their "legal" income, not enough to comply with their promises to the recruited people, but enough to keep the snow ball rolling. Soon, all business will suffer from this scam, resulting in a unbearable cost for marketing in different non productive programs with Google, MSN, Yahoo or another major advertizer. MANY ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES WILL PAY part of the PYRAMID SCAM, with no return from their marketing money. That is the reason why non of the giants have said a word against IJango yet, because they will, in first place, get the bigger chunck of their customer's wasted money.
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Charlie
08. Aug, 2009
lets all just relax not worth discusing
over a small investment like 150 one time 20 a month give or take 10 cents
mlms work if you work it if not you lose
so what i lose in the lotto 99.9999999%
may add up to a least 200.00 month so my
investment is my problem win or lose but
life goes on farther more our creator is
on top of pyramid and we all in it like it or not please excuse $ ,."? thanks
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Mike
09. Aug, 2009
Well Charlie,
This is exactly the kind of logic that this scam is counting on. "It's just 150.00.. What's the big deal if I loose it"
Would you write a check for 390.00 to anyone that asked?
It goes deeper than the money Charlie. It's about ethics and honesty!
iJango claims partnerships with Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc… and uses their names and reputations to bolster its own credibility. (because it has none)
No such partnerships exist! And in the case of Google, they forthrightly deny any affiliation with iJango and are presently investigating you guys for trademark violations.
And you can bet that Google is just the first!
When this thing disintegrates it's going to leave a lasting bruise on the network marketing industry. Thanks A Lot!
Best to all
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Probuilder
24. Aug, 2009
Hello,
All Great Points and Comments. Only Time Will Tell
Thanks
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