Update: Better Business Bureau Calls iJango a Pyramid Scheme
By Dan Mitchell, MLM Blog Correspondent
Yesterday Ty blogged about the so-called iJango scam and how it was similar to AGLOCO. As a former Director of Sales at one of the top MLM Leads companies in the industry I've spoken to thousands and thousands of Network Marketing and MLM Professionals and I can still remember the hype and lies surrounding AGLOCO. And then the eventual collapse...
I just hope people aren't duped into this latest get-rich-quick-scheme called iJango from Cameron Sharpe and Steve Smith. With the state of the economy these days the $150 it takes to get started could buy a lot of food and essentials.
The iJango scam is a lot like a game of Jenga - it's fun and exciting to begin with but it's not over until the pieces fall down. iJango!
Read the TechCrunch article here that discusses AGLOCO...
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PEOPLE…HEEELLLOOOO!?? DO A BACKGROUND CHECK ON CAMERON SHARPE…OK FINE…HE’S A DEADBEAT DAD, THIEF, BEEN FORECLOSED ON…BUT MAYBE IJANGO WILL STILL BE OK, RIGHT? WELL FACTOR IN THE FACT THAT ALL HIS PREVIOUS BUSINESSES, ALL MLMS, EITHER FAILED OR WERE ACTUALLY FORCEABLY SHUT DOWN, THEN MAYBE YOU’LL GET A CLUE AS TO THE LIKELIHOOD OF IJANGO’S SUCCESS.
BTW…Derek Timmons… before you going calling people idiots by saying “your an idiot”….get your grammar right…its “you’re”…as in “YOU ARE an idiot Derek Timmons”
Everyone keeps talking about this August 1st launch….I am reading all of this on September 25 and you still can’t sign up on that crappy site!
NOT that I wanted to sign up….just want to see how the site works and surprise surprise…it doesn’t work! You can’t sign up, the more info links are dead links. hahaha! So all the shit talkers (like me) here were right! And the ijango brainwashed idiots were WRONG!
I am not sure about the terms and conditions….but if anything being sold on the internet…whatever it is, doesn’t have at least a 30 day MBG, then stay away!
You want to make money fast and easy? Deal drugs
To Chris
Guess what? Ijango is still standing while you and the rest of the naysayers had egg all over your faces. Despite of the setbacks and immunendos they had faced, this company is going to make it and it will come out like a bed of roses. I don’t think Steve Smith and company wouldn’t shut this down completely hadn’t they spend millions of dollars of his money and counseled with his lawyers before they launched this company.
BTW Chris, you need to check yourself when comes to grammar. You’re no expert your damn self.
iJango is getting very little traffic…pretty much dead in the water.
TY,
Careful of what you’re saying, theyre now in the 50,000 members strong. I will not called it dead in the water anytime soon.
Moose, c’mon man. That’s 50K free members. Before the product launched back in august they had 15K reps. Now there down to 8K reps. Hmmmm 2+2=4 right? Ive lost over half my reps – now down to 400, I did not like Ty’s approach in the beginning but you have to admit, iJango is dead in the water. Our traffic rank went from 2K to 16K nationally, Cam’s out – Rayner runs the show and although the concept is great and novel – the product is below industry standards. One last thing – the only real money you make in iJango is by recruiting – getting .01 to .10 a rep and free members does not sound nor is a lucrative business proposition. Sad part is now their telling us we’re going to start making $1.00 per “Active Member” only if you are an “active member” to make maters even worse – I don’t know of one network marketing company that pays the same in commissions on your lower levels. To make any decent money as a new comer you’ll have to recruit a few 1000 in ur biz in hopes they can all get a few 100 in free members each. then ytou might make around 5K to 8K a month. BUt only if that were true the top earner in that company just recieved their commissions from over 4K reps and God knows how many free customers and only made $400 for the month. Sounds like a Scheme to me. well as of Jan first I’m leaving and i can guarantee a few 100 or maybe 1K will be following. DEAD IN THE WATER….
Guys regardless of what you can dig on Cam, give the guy a break – he’s a dad – he’s a father – his paid is debt to society – he’s actively in recovery – he works with others in recovery – he has full custody of his children – and he in fact as absolutely no ties with ijango any longer. Call Rayner and ask him when was the last time cam was in Austin or the last time he or any in Austin have spoke with Cam. Go dig up taxes for Cam after this year and look at what he was paid in ijango – 2 months salary and he was out.
The guy today is honestly working a real job, trying to keep the little shreds of dignity you guys so quickly want to rip away. If you think the model is bad blame Steve Smith – Rayner Smith – and the high school glee club they have working down in Austin as “Tech Support”
Integrity!!!!!
The following is from :
http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/ijango-scam/
I was watching Tech Now this week and the technology show mentioned a scam that’s getting the Better Business Bureau’s (BBB) attention. I never really cared too much about these scams, because I assumed, like Nigerian princes, people were smart enough to avoid them. However, after realizing that a lot of people are getting scammed by MonaVie, I figured I should write about some scams when I come across them. I figure it might save some reader some money someday – and that makes it worthwhile for me. Today’s scam in question… iJango.
What is iJango
iJango bills itself as a “Membership Rewards Community.” What does that mean? It means that you sign up to earn rewards and recruit other members. I love earning rewards. I even like recruiting other members for things I believe in. However, there’s a problem with iJango… if you want to earn rewards for recruiting other members it costs $150, PLUS $20 a month. Tech Now showed this information on their broadcast, but I can’t seem to find it on the iJango website. Several links appear to be broken on iJango’s website, so maybe they are having some difficulty on their site today. In fact, the Vicky Nguyen of Tech TV says that iJango admits to often having a broken site as they are constantly upgrading.
What Tech Now and the BBB say about iJango
After fielding 3400 inquiries after their August launch, the BBB gave iJango an F rating. While iJango claims to be a Multi-Level Marketing website, the Erin McCool of the Silicon Valley BBB says “they have extreme suspicions about what they are doing.”
According to McCool, “People have trouble canceling the service” due to the website’s bugs. It’s always a bad sign when you get stuck with a $20/mo. bill that you can’t get out of.
McCool also said, “We can’t shut them down and it’s a pain staking policy for the government agencies as well.” This is something that has come up in MonaVie discussions a lot. The logic of some distributors is that if they haven’t been shut down, it must be legal. Because of the painstaking process, this is simply not true.
What Founder Steve Smith says about iJango being a pyramid scheme
Tech Now caught up with founder Steve Smith and asked him if iJango is a pyramid scheme. His answer was so hiliarious, I’ve transcribed it below:
SS: It’s a little… it’s a little… it’s a little, different concept because we are bringing customer on who produce revenue for us.
TechNow: How do they produce revenue? So you have partners with companies that pay you?
SS: Yeah for what they do on… on… shopping… and… online
TechNow: Who are those companies? Netflix? I saw you said Netflix… Pricegrabber… are those all companies you have a relationship with?
SS: Those are all companies that we have a relationship with. It’s probably not even a direct relationship. This development team that we brought on brings us a lot of relationships. So for us it would be a third-party relationship that brings the relationships with these people that help monetize the customers that we bring to the site.
TechNow: How is this NOT a pyramid scam? Make that easy for me.
SS: Because we produce revenue from our customers. We get revenue, our customers use their tools and utilities, and we are paid part of that revenue share.
The BBB goes on to say that the relationships with Google, Pricegrabber, and Rhapsody don’t exist. Here you could take argument with what the BBB is saying. I’m sure iJango has a relationship with these companies through affiliate programs like FlexOffers and Commission Junction. Founder Steve Smith is misrepresenting the relationship when he flashes a Netflix logo during a presentation as if to say, “These big companies are partnering with us, so you have to believe we are the real deal” instead of “No one at Netflix has ever heard of us.”
What iJango Users have to say
When asked about how iJango is paying, Paul Bass, iJango user, said:
They haven’t started paying out yet because of the problems with the servers. Even if I was dupped and even if they got my $149… [laughs]… that’s not a lot of downside risk… and the upside potential…
That’s exactly the kind of attitude that pyramid scams want to hear. A lot of $149 and $20 a month bills add up quickly for companies… especially when they don’t really provide a product.
Another user Michelle was interviewed:
TechNow: Can you give me an idea, Michelle of how much money you’ve made with iJango?
Michelle: Absolutely not, that’s a private matter.
I suppose it is a private matter, but if it was signfiicant money, wouldn’t she be shouting it from the rooftops?
Why iJango is a scam
By becoming an iJango Community Director, you are basically becoming a salesman for them and their company. You are out there recruiting other people and earning commission on everything that they buy (if they buy anything). You wouldn’t pay your own employer to work for them, so why would you pay iJango?
THE COMMENT SECTION IS:
http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/ijango-scam/#comments
To whom it may concern.
Carmon Sharp is not and has not been involved with ijango since
Sept 2009.
My wife and I have been involved with ijango for over 9 weeks now and have been GETTING PAID regularly based on our OWN PERSONAL PERFORMANCE.
I happen to know one of the founders PERSONALTY and I can tell you that it is on no way a SCAM.
Open up you eyes people….. the date today is may 7th 2010. ijango was launched in August of 2009 and they had a few problems like a lot of new products do….Any one remember….. Windows Vista??????
just because they had a few issues at start up dose not mean any thing. They are honorable people that are doing something good for people.
I have FREE members in my business that are GETTING PAID regularly as well.
A pyramid scam is what Berny Mad-off did… it is also when the guy at the top makes all the money and the others that work for him make little compared to the top guy, and I might add with no chance of ever making what the top guys make….. sound like anything you heard of????? Welcome to corporate America!!!!!
ijango is good for everyone involved! We are excited to be part of the ijango community!!
Kirk Martin, from which Ijango do you work for? from reading your statement I feel like we are joining different net work. I believe I am one of the many people who join Ijango last year. I have around 100 people and only got paid $.97 the whole month(what a joke!!!) and that is because they said I got special bonus.
The only thing they made money is from their conferences and seminars.
It’s a scam!!!!