ASEA Scam?
Posted on 01. Feb, 2010 by Ty Tribble in ASEA, Network Marketing News
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There is a new liquid "nutritional" product out on the marketplace that caught my attention. Now, it didn't catch my attention because of a revolutionary compensation plan (it's a copy of a couple of other companies). What caught my attention is the product.
How do I put this? It's Salt Water!
This company wants you to buy a case of Salt Water for $150.
Seriously, I took a screen capture of the label:
Ingredients: Distilled Water and Sodium Chloride. Uhhhh, that's Salt Water!
The site has a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo simulated science, but the label is pretty clear.
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Aaron
01. Feb, 2010
better yet, I went to their website and the ingredient was not Sodium Chloride… it was Sodium, and seperately Choride (yes they spelled it Choride, NOT Chloride). I don’t even know what Choride is!
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Fer Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
ummmmm…..dude…….that should be “separately.”
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Aaron Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
ummmmmm….. dude….. I am dazzled by your superior vernacular and grammar skills! Have you gone through every post here and corrected their typos?
Bottom line is that this company is selling expensive saline solution.
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Fer Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
LOL! No! I have actually been researching this product myself, as I have a friend who is trying to get me into it. Since I am a skeptic, I am researching, researching. Just though it was funny that you were correcting a spelling while misspelling. This is actually the first time I have ever posted to a blog-gy thing-a-ma-jigger myself. But here’s another tidbit correction….it’s eletrolyzed saline solution. Been reading their patent and researching, researching. Found many concerns, as it is a similar process that is sometimes used to make bleach. It has germ killing potential of powerful household cleaners and is mega cheap to produce. However, suppposedly “their” process is such that it eliminates toxic chlorate by-products and keeps the solution biologically compatible with our bodies. I’m most definitely not a chemist of any sort, but into health and wellness a bit and wanted to dig deeper. Still way skeptical, but trying to put together the pieces.
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Fer Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
my apologies to the misspelling “electrolyzed”
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fer Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Oh! Also, their marketing claims no toxicity, however their patent states the following, “The solutions exhibit a marked lack of toxicity upon intravenous, aspired, oral or topical application in mammals.”
Read more: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090110749#ixzz0hHUQniY6
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Gregory Elfrink
02. Feb, 2010
Wow. That’s pretty amazing.
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brandon stimpson
02. Feb, 2010
come on Ty, I thought your blog was pretty dang good and informative until this last posting. I’m sorry you are so uneducated about the ASEA product and what it REALLY is. It’s beyond ingredients and beyond a lot of the other products out there. maybe a little more time and research would be worth it before posting about something you’re not clear on.
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Ty Tribble Reply:
February 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
I posted the exact ingredients with a picture of the bottle….you want to let me know what ingredients I missed?
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mark
03. Feb, 2010
This doesn’t mean anything to me, but perhaps you or a reader can decode it. If ‘Asea’ ’s anything more than saltwater, I’d think that whatever ‘more’ it is must be in the patent description: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090110749
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Mike Bills
05. Feb, 2010
Ty,
If you can take a moment and just think for a moment that not everything is as simple as ingredients listed on a bottle and do a little investigative work I know you will find out that ASEA is not just salt water. Look at the emerging science behind Redox Signaling and educate yourself on what these reactive molecules are and how your body produces and uses them and you will understand how revolutionary ASEA is. All I am asking is not the typical Knee Jerk reaction and look, research and then reach out to me for an explanation. You have a huge platform here please take a moment and get some facts on the product and the technology. Thank You.
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Ty Tribble Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Hi Mike, Thank you for the comment. How about you explain it to us…
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Mike Bills
05. Feb, 2010
Inside your body in each cell is a Mitochondria. The Mitochondria is the powerhouse for energy and essential for the immune system. The Mitochondria produces two sets of reactive molecules that the body uses to fuel the immune system. One set is the RS (Antioxidant Activators) and the other set is the ROS (Immune System Communicators). Think of the first set of molecules as the shield in your immune system and the second set as the Army. Over time as you Age, through disease or other damage/Injury individuals may loose the ability to produce these molecules.
The breakthrough is this. ASEA has managed to create and stabilize outside the body, the reactive molecules produced naturally by the mitochondria inside of your body. You can then drink, nebulize and inhale or topically apply ASEA to reintroduce these reactive molecules to the body. This is unlike an ingredient that may be natural like a herb, fruit or berry. Nutrition and natural ingredients are extremely important, but can go only so far. Without the proper balance of reactive molecules antioxidants are innefective.
Now, don’t take just my word on this. Google Redox Signaling. Find and read articles on RS and ROS molecules. Once your understand what they are then understand that ASEA is the first and only stable, perfectly balanced mixture of these Redox Signaling reactive molecules that exists outside the body.
Its hard to list those as ingredients but we have independent confirmation those molecules exist in every bottle of ASEA.
http://notaberry.teamasea.com/pdf/ReactiveMoleculeVerification.pdf
Ty, Thanks for the opportunity and platform you provide. If you want more from me let me know. Thank you.
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G Reply:
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:26 pm
@Mike, You really need to take an A&P class before you try to explain something you clearly know nothing about.
It’s a shame this company scams people into believing H2O + NaCl = Magic Formula for your body…
Selling to the uneducated. That’s how these scams work. It’s probably not your fault, you may not understand how the human body works either.
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Brandon Stimpson
05. Feb, 2010
loved the video on how ASEA is made, although you might have been a little lite on the salt, and it’s not regular tap water, but it was good. I think you/I should make a few of those videos for all the berry juice and antioxidant people out there. squishing some juice out into a cup, or going down to the healthfood store and just buying for a fraction of what they charge.
great explanation from Mike above on what ASEA really is. I’d love to continue the conversation with you on it too Ty.
Take care.
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david bradley
05. Feb, 2010
I am currently talking to my lawyer about what can be done about one of the biggest scams to ever emerge the MLM scene. I have began to study the redox process after I was approached by an ASEA team member. My first warning signal sounded with the “REDOX” signaling, which sounded like a super secret term to hide a reason for $150 a gallon SALT WATER. My second warning came when I read the ingredient list SODIUM CHLORIDE. My third came after I read the study “scientists” performed to prove the effect of ASEA. It is the most UNscientific approach to a study that I have ever read. NO large test group. NO double blind, placebo controlled results. A VERY short test period. Taking ONE of the participants results and making that ONE result the studies FINAL result, then stating; two weeks is too short a time to fully observe the results of this study, so one could assume that these results will CONTINUE to improve. (paraphrased) THIS IS A SCAM!!! I don’t care what they say about REDOX SIGNALING this is glorified SALT WATER. Most people could actually benefit from putting a pinch of REAL SEA SALT in a bottle of distilled water. you would get many minerals that would actually benefit the mitochondria as well as the other cells in the body. MLM programs often prey on the elderly who are concerned with immediate health issues. I study health issues with a passion and I would love to find the magic bullet for health and prosperity. THIS IS NOT IT! The science used to define the actual process is for the most part BOGUS. REDOX is defined as a process in which one thing is oxidized and another is reduced. when I can acquire the exact process, believe you me I will crack this nut ALL over the place. Using a bunch of scientific sounding terms around people is intimidating and used to snare them into a sell. Not to mention the unsanitary process in which the water is bottled! with the “swine flu” and other virus scares on peoples minds, the workers in the bottle plant should NEVER be allowed to work in an area where the bottles are touched without a face mask and gloves. I really feel poorly towards the individuals who have joined the ASEA team and believe in the product. To them I say, study the human body, study the scientific process, study the methods of healing and most of all, read the 8th commandment which states “THOU SHALT NOT STEAL” and the one that says don’t lie and there should be one that states thou shalt not charge $150 a gallon for a bottle of distilled tap water.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
February 26th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Please see my entry below. The double blind, placebo controlled studies are in the works and the preliminary findings are incredible, especially in the athletic field where it is being studied in the athletic arena by a major university. Mind you they are not trying to promote this thing as a drug, just a nutritional supplement. If double blind, placebo controlled studies were required on all foods, most grocery store products would fail miserably and be pulled from the shelves. There are a few other scriptures you should review here such as “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” I hope no one is allowed to judge you who has not met you, does not know your heart and who knows so little about you. And “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” You really need to get to know these men and do some serious due diligence before you spend your money on an attorney. I’d be happy to send you a book and sponsor a visit to the corporate headquarters for you.
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Samm
07. Feb, 2010
Recently I accidently got shower gel with essential oils in my eye and the pain and resulting redness was quite severe. After a few hours with no improvement I sprayed Asea directly in my eye. Naturally, since this is not “regular saltwater ” there was no stinging sensation. Within a short time there was noticeable improvement and relief from pain.
Try spraying regular saltwater in your eye and see how it feels.
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Matthew Adams
08. Feb, 2010
Great example Mike.
I think what is being missed here is the “salt water” is the carrier.
In the doctors office, carriers are used all the time to transport various chemicals into the body. Saline (salt water) is primarily used to transport certain drugs into the body.
For example…when you visit someone at the hospital…they are attached to an IV drip. what is in the bottle? Saline.
Saline is closest thing to the water already in your body. Anything else will make your kidneys work overtime.
So…you are NOT just drinking “salt Water”…it is what is INSIDE the salt water…that makes a difference.
Hope this helps.
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G Reply:
February 24th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
@Matthew, Saline in an IV bag has nothing to do with your kidneys. If saline was not used, then your red blood cells would swell and burst. (hypotonic solution)
If the ingredients on the bottle say Water and NaCl, then you ARE drinking saline (salt water).
In addition, there isn’t anything “in” the salt water. NaCl is NaCl is NaCl, there is nothing more. (Basic Chemistry)
I suggest buying a nice used textbook from your local community college and read up.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
G, your kidneys have a LOT to do with it. Your kidneys filter all of the fluids that enter your body. (Liver of course filter blood). The process that ASEA goes through is not a simple process…it is VERY high tech.
Listen…i am not a rocket scientist…but even I know the difference between a glass filled with tap water & salt and ASEA.
I have seen the results in my wife…and I till you this…nothing has ever work for her…ever.
And if Ty would just take a break from telling us about HIS product on this thread…what he would say just might have more validity.
But…you cannot erase history Mr. Tribble. (this post…yes…but not history.)
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 7th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I think things are pretty clear in terms of history, Matthew. I left a company that you continued to defend, making all kinds of statements about my integrity, yet today, you are no longer with that company.
Bill Reply:
March 7th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
I was suffering from a scratchy throat and picked up a bottle of ASEA. I gargled…and a few hours later I felt relief. It turns out it wasn’t ASEA but warm salt water. WOW- I just saved $150 case. I think I will bottle my invention and call it AOCEAN because I am a winner.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 7th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Wait a minute Ty…I never attacked your integrity because of the other company…we all have choices to make. All companies have science behind them. ASEA as well as EIRO. I would never attack Eiro because not only would it have hurt you…but many of my friends. Instead of REALLY looking at the science behind ASEA you chose to make fun of a competitor that you may have some friends in. There are many out there that thought what was done was a very bad call. I for one was one willing to call you out on your choice. Do I still respect you as a leader in this industry. Yes…but not as much as before because you lead with your agenda instead of your usually incredible writing…what made you so popular in the first place. Attacking a competitor hurt your rep.
Just sayin buddy.
Where you go and choose to do business is your choice…and I respect that. And with the other companies history…you made a good choice.
But did you know that same company REALLY hurt me and my family…I mean REALLY.
And the one that hurt me the most…was the main founder with a VERY bad judgment call due to some mis-information.
Be Well.
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Dave
09. Feb, 2010
OK. I’m confused. What is in ASEA if it’s not sodium and chloride? There is nothing on the label other than those two minerals, plus distilled water.
Sodium and chloride are both considered electrolytes because they carry an electric charge. So, basically, from what I can tell, Gatorade does the same thing but tastes a lot better and costs a lot less.
Mike, how can you say it is the first and only perfectly balanced formula? These things are by their very nature unbalanced. If they were balanced, they would not be of any use in the redox reactions that the product purportedly is used for.
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GENEVA
09. Feb, 2010
What about Evolv with Trey White?
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Rudy
09. Feb, 2010
Trey White? Check that guy’s history out. He was one of the guys that took Homestore.com public. Homestore.com is on Forbes’ “Corporate Scandal Sheet” for defrauding investors for milions.
http://www.forbes.com/2002/07/25/accountingtracker.html
Dig a little deeper and you find that Trey White’s other company, White Energy, just filed bankruptcy. I think it was after he left, but what kind of corporate leader is proud to list this stuff on his resume? A scandalous company and then a bankrupt company.
http://www.white-energy.com/Notice%20of%20Comm.pdf
By the way, he’s nowhere listed as a billionaire except with Evolv reps.
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Geneva
10. Feb, 2010
Rudy,
while i wanted to know ty’s opinion on Evolv, i appreciate this info. I am a prof network biz owner and when this opp presented itself the first thing i checked out was the leadership.
while the product sounded only slightly interesting, i could not for the life of me get impressed about any of the leaders. i did sign up for pre-launch, but never invested any more of my time and def none of my money.
i am spoiled and extremely blessed to follow amazing leaders and hold the bar high in comparison to any other venture i entertain.
again, thanks…..
g
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Ty Tribble
10. Feb, 2010
Geneva,
We will be posting an article about Evolv in the next couple of days….stay tuned.
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Pat Reply:
February 26th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
This is off topic, but since Evolv got brought up, Ken Dunn, former Master at Max, just announced last night he and his key leaders have joined Evolv.
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geneva
11. Feb, 2010
i will & thanks. since this was a dallas company, i like to stay informed of things in my “neighborhood”.
g
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Rudy
11. Feb, 2010
I just talked with someone in Dallas about a new company there called EIRO. Looks pretty interesting. If you’re in Dallas, you may want to check it out.
http://www.eiro.com
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mark
12. Feb, 2010
Rudy, check that site again. You’ll see that Ty’s quite familiar with EIRO.
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Melanie
21. Feb, 2010
Lets keep it real….its salt water. Now if you can spray it into your eyes and not feel a sting like Samm said, then that concerns me too. There must be other ingredients in this product that’s not listed. Maybe if someone listed all of the wonderful changes that happen once they started drinking this, I would be more inclined to disagree with Ty.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 8th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Okay…let’s see if I can put this into words that do not cross any lines with the FTC.
My wife (Michelle) has a condition where on a daily basis…she is in a tremendous amount of pain. On a scale of 1 to 10…she was a 15. I used to wake up in the middle of the night to her moan in pain…just from rolling over. I was thinking how can anyone get a good nights sleep with that? (I won’t say the “disease”…but I guess you can figure it out).
Anyway…she has tried every supplement out there. Every juice, pill, powder & electronic device. Nothing worked.
Then we had a call…(another one)…about another product. They wanted to send us some. So just to end the call…we said sure…send it.
Now for a little history…I could not even sit next to Michelle without her making a “pain” face…and asking me to move over. Going up stairs was interesting. If I did not go first…I had to sit and wait till she got to the top…it was that painful. One stair at a time…and waiting between each step.
The ASEA arrives. Tasted kinda like pool water…but we have tasted worse.
First week: Nothing
Second week: She noticed sleep was better…woke up rested.
Third week: I was sitting on the couch and Michelle was getting ready to go run some errands. She came FLYING down the stairs…grabbed the clothes from the dryer and ran back up the stairs. I was shocked. I ran to the stairs and called up to her. “Michelle! Are you okay?” She said yes. “Do you realize what you just did?” She stopped…”I just ran down the stairs. I just ran down THE STAIRS!”
She ran down the stairs again…then ran back up…and was in tears. It was not hurting.
She was expecting this NOT to work like everything else. She was expecting…okay…what ever.
The company invited us to a fly in. We went…and we signed up.
The leadership: Incredible
The Product: More than we could hope for.
The Business: “Intense” is my word for it.
Does this product work? Yes…it does.
CLUE: Michelle is not my only example…but my son as well. What it has dome for him…is life changing.
The statements made here has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These statements and the products of this company are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. I am an Associate with ASEA.
P.S. I appreciate you!
Remember…Live up to your potential,
Matthew Adams
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Cheryl RN
26. Feb, 2010
Ty, Get ready to wipe the egg off your face. Former University of Utah President Chase Peterson (who was also Dean of Admissions for Harvard University and Dean of the U of U Medical School, a renown physician himself) wrote the forward to the book; The Science of Healing Revealed: New insights into Redox Signaling (please note the word “New” in the title) which was written by the award winning Atomic/Medical Physicists, Gary L Samuelson, Ph.D for the express purpose of explaining how ASEA works. (Gary was asked to write the book by the company founders.) Gary is the scientist responsible for tweaking the formulation of the Asea product making it stable and marketable. This is CUTTING EDGE nano science. Gary is a consultant to a variety of companies in the health science industry. He has helped developed the large-scale production of safe, stable nanoparticle structures capable of safely disabling viruses, attacking bacteria, detecting tumors and delivering drugs. The resultant product is capable of stimulating many of the body’s natural healing responses. (Think ASEA) Gary plans on publishing several other books to inform the public about NEWLY EMERGING science and how it can improve our health.
I guess if stable nanoparticles were an ingredient they would be listed on the bottle. You are understandably and forgivably behind in your scientific studies as this is so cutting edge. And, it is simply not duplicable without Gary’s methodology. The scientific world states that it cannot be done because they haven’t figured out how to do it yet. This is the stuff of Nobel Prizes similar to Patric Flannagan’s Microhydrin. I would be happy to send you a complimentary copy of the book.
I have met the CEO, the President and Gary Samuelson and can assure you that you will be hard pressed to find men of higher quality and more integrity in the whole world. Their motives for passing up a multimillion dollar offer from a drug company to ensure that this product was available to those who were benefiting from it are most honorable and admirable. As unbelievable as it sounds, they are not in it for the money, they have all they need. Their motive is humanitarian. You would do well to pay attention to the people who have actually met the company’s founders, read the book, listened to the presentations and used the product.
The “proof is in the pudding” here. Anyone who hasn’t tried the product for at least a week and done some before and after measurements should hold their peace.
My healthy, athletic children (ages 26, 25, 22, 18) have noted exceptional endurance, recovery times and decreased muscle soreness after their sports games. My 18 year olds skin condition has shown miraculous improvements.
To David Bradley: The double blind, placebo controlled studies are in the works and the preliminary findings are incredible, especially in the athletic field where it is being studied in the athletic arena by a major university. Mind you they are not trying to promote this thing as a drug, just a nutritional supplement. If double blind, placebo controlled studies were required on all foods, most grocery store products would fail miserably and be pulled from the shelves. There are a few other scriptures you should review here such as “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” I hope no one is allowed to judge you who has not met you, does not know your heart and who knows so little about you. And “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” You really need to get to know these men and do some serious due diligence before you spend your money on an attorney. I’d be happy to send you a book and sponsor a visit to the corporate headquarters for you.
To Aaron: My bottle has Chloride spelled correctly. I hope no one judges me on my typos, there wouldn’t be a hell deep enough. I thank God for spell check daily!
P.S. I use the product daily and so does Dr. Peterson and his wife, at least one former Olympic champion (turned orthopedic surgeon) and someone associated with the Tour de France (I’m sorry, I don’t remember his name), the CEO, the President, all the staff and their families.
Oh, and it does taste like pool water but mixing it with anything will denature it unlike Gatorade or any of the other solutions out there. That is because it is NOT just salt water if it were they certainly would have made it taste better!
The bottom line here is: If you can show me some credentials and updated, cutting edge scientific proof that this stuff is a scam and doesn’t work I will have to apologize and return to the lesser state of health I was in before I found ASEA. My athletic children will be really upset!
Seriously, I believe that God or the Creator or the Universe or whatever you believe in is watching over us and trying to give us alternatives to the current health crises we face and there are many inspired and healthful products available now and being developed to that end. Thanks for hearing me out. Got to go take my ASEA!
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Ty Tribble Reply:
February 26th, 2010 at 8:08 am
C’mon Cheryl…there are no studies of this Asea hocus-pocus science. You are asking me to disprove something that doesn’t exist. It’s a common fallacy, you can’t prove what you are saying so you throw your hands up in the air and tell me to prove you wrong. Well, your wrong not because I say so, but because you don’t have any evidence that this Asea product is anything more than salt water.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
February 27th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Thanks for reviewing my comments, Ty. Actually, there are 15 million dollars worth of studies on this stuff. I will see if I can tell you where it is. I know it was studied at the University of Utah in it’s final stages. There are some studies on their website and more underway. The Orthopedic Specialty Hospital in Murray, Utah is currently conducting a double blind placebo controlled athletic study as we speak and the results will be posted on the website in a few weeks. This thing really is CUTTING EDGE, meaning you won’t find answers in research older than 2 years. Redux signalling is a big deal right now and many universities are studying it. They actually say it is impossible to stabilize these reactive molecules because they have been unable to do so. Dr Gary Samuelson was able to accomplish the task and ASEA was born. Keep you eye on this stuff, especially the athletic arena. The evidence that I don’t know how to show you is the reactive molecule. I will work on that one. I did read the book, meet the owners and the scientist and I experienced the product. Thanks again.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
February 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I wished this blog had an “edit your reply” before posting so I could fix my typos. Please excuse them.
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G Reply:
February 26th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
@Cheryl, judging by your nick (RN), you would also know that it’s difficult to prove something without a “peer reviewed” scientific articles. You did write papers in Nursing school didn’t you??? Your example of your children using the product is hardly a scientific study that proves anything. All it proves is that you bought into the pitch that some slick salesman got you to invest in.
Just for kicks I went into my University’s database to see if I could find anything that would support your statements… Y’know, Medline, JSTOR, EBSCO Host.. How many peer review articles pop up??? none, because there is no such thing.
I guess that it would be good for my sore throat that I could gargle, but I’ll stick with the table salt and water.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
February 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am
G, Actually, it would be excellent for your sore throat but not because of the sodium chloride alone. The stabilized reactive molecules would do the most good. I understand your concern that I bought into a slick salesman but really I was the one who sold myself. They were not at all “slick”. Dr.Bruce Lipton, who taught anatomy to med students and did research at Penn State and Stanford says that it takes about 20 years for the science to reach the medical community. I’m sure the peer review will be coming. Keep your eye out. Columbus didn’t make his maps before he sailed. My best to you.
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Russ Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:15 pm
This one paragraph should tell you they are sacmmers it is not of human nature to have enough money. What a joke. I have met the CEO, the President and Gary Samuelson and can assure you that you will be hard pressed to find men of higher quality and more integrity in the whole world. Their motives for passing up a multimillion dollar offer from a drug company to ensure that this product was available to those who were benefiting from it are most honorable and admirable. As unbelievable as it sounds, they are not in it for the money, they have all they need. Their motive is humanitarian. You would do well to pay attention to the people who have actually met the company’s founders, read the book, listened to the presentations and used the product.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Russ, I kid you not. I am sorry that you have never met anyone who is satisfied with the abundance they have. Both the founders are multi-millionaires one of whom retired at age 43 and the other was a well known, sought after executive for Kraft, Philip Morris and other huge corporations. Not everyone follows your definition of “human nature”. A few greedy ones do no make all of them greedy. I suggest you make the effort to get to know these men before you cast judgment on them. I once heard a wise man say “One should judge a man by his friends, not his enemies”. I agree.
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Rudy Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Where are the studies? That’s all I care about at this time. I won’t build a binary business. I think the price to CV at ASEA is a joke.
But I will gladly acknowledge I was wrong if someone can show me the science.
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Cheryl RN
26. Feb, 2010
Just one more thought. I sure wished I could get a drug company to offer me multimillions of dollars for salt water. I’d sell in a nano second!!! They must have seen past the sodium chloride. Can’t help but wonder…
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Norm
26. Feb, 2010
You can’t spray Salt water in your eyes without it hurting… some say
However, Saline Solution you put in your eyes for contacts has Water (H20) + Salt (SODIUM CHLORIDE)
in it. Usually has other ingredients to keep it from going stale on the store shelf.
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Bob
01. Mar, 2010
This subject goes way beyond Asea.
Perhaps a little lesson in the subjects of pseudoscience, and the placebo effect are in order.
Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
“Identifying pseudoscience
A field, practice, or body of knowledge might reasonably be called pseudoscientific when (1) it is presented as consistent with the accepted norms of scientific research; but (2) it demonstrably fails to meet these norms, most importantly, in misuse of scientific method.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
The placebo effect is real as well and needs to be taken into account:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
This is exactly why double blind placebo studies that are peer reviewed and then published are the gold standard, preferably studies that are paid for by by others than the ones who are to benefit financially.
Much caution bust be taken before undertaking a path that will result in hundreds or thousands of people spending their hard earned cash on something that will eventually be proven to be pseudoscientific in nature.
hope this helps…
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Bob
01. Mar, 2010
Another word of caution,
A company invents terms in their literature that sound credible, and are used over and over by that company to sound convincing.
The one study they offer is poor, vague, not peer reviewed, and not published in any scientific journals which would be in the best interest of the company in the first place.
They do not have much to show for the tens of millions, and 20 years of research that are supposedly behind the product.
An 0.15% saline solution with an electrical charge induced is in essence what you are paying for.
Perhaps some study needs to be done on what people are selling you as H2O and making billions of dollars on as well:
Here is a chemists pint of view:
http://www.chem1.com/CQ
There are tremendously beneficial things we can offer people that will actually help them.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 1st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Bob, your caution is good. Your facts a little off. My husband is also a chemist (Masters Degree from Berkley) and he loves the stuff. It hass given him the edge on the men he swims with every morning. Not that it it is proof but it sure has been fun. He might let him in on his little secret sometime. The terms Asea uses are understood and accepted in the scientific forum. Dr Samuelson would not jeopardize his award winning career making up terms. Have you read his book? They actually spent 15 million dollars developing the science behind ASEA and another 14 million getting it to pass the FDA when they realized that it had to have an acceptable toxicity level to qualify for FDA approval which it does not. They cannot regulate something that is not toxic. Also, they are not making billions of dollars. Like I said, the studies are coming. Watch for them, you may be surprised. Good luck.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 1st, 2010 at 3:53 pm
P.S. They were down to the last step in the FDA approval process when the current owners acquired it and opted not to sell it to a pharmaceutical company.
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Ty Tribble
01. Mar, 2010
Wouldn’t they have some record of the studies that were done for the FDA? Where are those?
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Bill Reply:
March 1st, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Yea. They chose network marketing versus selling to big pharma. Thank you ASEA for your kindness to humanity!
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Rudy Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
BULL***! I know you’re being sarcastic, Bill, but good business people do not pull out of clinical data on drugs if it shows promise. It is ALWAYS worth the gamble if the data is there. See my post below. . .
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Rudy, Obviously they did it for the children.
Bill Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Rudy, You are incorrect.I know these people. They are doing the Lord’s work.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 12:21 am
ALWAYS hun? My daddy warned me about people who used the terms ALWAYS and NEVER. Caution!
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MaryAnne Reply:
March 8th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Big Pharma would have sold 1 bottle of ASEA for $1000+
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Rudy Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:33 am
So why would they choose to sell it for $40.00 when they could get $1000?
I’m not defending big pharma or the drugs they produce. I’m pointing out a business decision based on economic reality.
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Bob
01. Mar, 2010
Cheryl,
Asea is obviously not making billions, the high dollar H2O industry is what I was reffering to.
Unfortunately doctors are human in nature, and get paid a lot of money by pharmaceutical companies to do all kinds of things and say all kinds of things. Hence the need for the peer reviewed, published studies.
Quality water is very important to us all, but the information that causes us to purchase it redirects funds, time, and hope.
When the evidence (beyond testimonials) is available in the form of undeniable irrefutable credibility, I look forward to the good news. I respect who you are and know I have provided enough information to encourage you to truthfully move forward.
One thing I have learned as an experienced (unbiased) high income earner in the industry is this:
Companies/People who have a lot of potential money at stake will always make it sound as good as possible. That is their agenda. Unfortunately It often takes the path of hype.
As an entrepreneur I believe in the free market, and getting paid very well for promoting irrefutably beneficial products and services to thousands. I will keep my eye on Asea for the studies.
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Cheryl RN
02. Mar, 2010
Bob, WOOPS! Sorry I miss understood you about the billions. You are very wise and I agree with much of what you said. The Asea is not a water replacement and should not be used to replace water in the diet. Two to four ounces a day is all that is necessary. It is not one of the 85 or so MLM juices on the market today. (Some of which are wonderful). The Asea liquid is the same as the fluid found in the cell. It has everything to do with redox signaling, oxidant/anti-oxidant reactions, ATP production, Glutathione, and a host of other processes in the cell. I understand that they (the University of Utah science department) measured an increase of 500% of Glutathione production with the use if Asea which would be awsome if validated. Talk about anti-aging!! I’m sure the increased ATP is responsible for the athletic response. The research is forthcoming and will be available as is it completed. The company is not interested in collecting testimonials. They already know what it can do. You will not find any testimonials in their literature. Thanks for your patience. You will be rewarded.
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Bob
02. Mar, 2010
Thank you Cheryl,
I was done posting here, but after reading your note I felt led chime in once again.
The company quotes:
“In independent studies, it was shown that ASEA when in contact with living cells increased the efficiency of some of our body’s most important native antioxidants (Glutathione and SOD) more than 500% and also increased their rate of production.”
Your statement “increase of 500% of Glutathione production” is somewhat inconsistent with what they claim.
They seem to have very carefully inserted the word “efficiency.” What is claimed on the website and the study I read is vague, and generally unscientific.
I have seen many companies make vague claims before that have the effect of people thinking they are the only ones in the world to have the Holy Grail in supplements. Belief is powerful in people If we can induce hope in people. Look at the verifiable science first.
We will see if or when a peer reviewed study is done and published, preferably in one of the caliber of “Free Radical Biology and Medicine” which would then be available to the public in PubMed.gov.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Bob, Skepticism is every bit as powerful as belief. I was wrong about the testimonials. What I was told is that they are not tracking them in files at the corporate headquarters. I will however take “increased efficiency” any day over what I have without it.
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Rudy Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 7:17 am
http://www.teamasea.com/pdf/Athletics.pdf
The “science” is based on one person’s results. It also fails to account for the fact that after exercising consistently for 14 days your body will naturally have an increased VO2 max level.
I love nutritional products and I love the idea of network marketing, but sometimes companies come along that just make it hard to represent the industry.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Rudy, you are absolutely right about the naturally increased VO2. That is exactly why you will be seeing ASEA big time in the athletic arena. A biker for the Tour De France will train for 6 months to get a 2% increase in speed and endurance. On the ASEA that increase was 12% and it did not take 6 months to accomplish. There have been several athletics on the product. The first one was the founders athletic son-in-law who gave it back to him after a month and said “I don’t think it did anything for me”. He then realized that his pulse was 15 beats lower at his normal work out and asked for it back. That was what lead to the athletic studies at the University of Utah. Give the company a call, they can fill you in on the details. Have you read the book? This is CUTTING EDGE. Do you think I enjoy drinking pool water? (Even a placebo is a valid form of therapy!)
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Bob
02. Mar, 2010
Sorry one more thing…they say “when in contact with living cells.” That does not mean it increases the entire body’s production of Glutathione, Superoxide Dismutase, and Catalase, which could easily be measured with the gold standard of testing Thiobarbituric Acid Reactive Substances or TBARS as it is known.
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 7:24 am
I know a product that increases Superoxide Dismutase within 60 minutes of taking it…proven through a clinical trial:
EIRO – http://www.eiroresearchnow.com/get-your-acai-in-whole-food-form-without-preservatives/
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Bob Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
EIRO is at the cutting edge of the superfriut
nutraceuticals. Maintaining the integrity of the fruit is particularly interesting, and I applaud you guys for eliminating Sodium Benzoate as well. There are multibillion dollar companies we all know of that have just been outclassed and I am sure are quickly reassessing their next move. I would be interested in the details of the clinicals.
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Bob
02. Mar, 2010
I lied, one more thing.
To respectfully correct you; the company does use testimonies. There is an entire page on the website…not that testimonies are a bad thing in and of themselves. Unless they are stating things that lead people circumvent proven treatments.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Bob, Would you please define “proven treatments”?
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Rudy
03. Mar, 2010
Did I read that correctly? ASEA was down to the final step in FDA approval as a drug but opted for the mlm channel? I’m not an expert, but I know enough about the process to know what it takes to get a drug FDA approved. If they were down to the last step, that means there are clinical trials somewhere and likely with human subjects.
The final step in pharma production is to have a broad-based placebo controlled human clinical trial. It usually has thousands of subjects and costs MILLIONS. The only time drug companies take on such an expense is if there is a SURE BET. A new pharma drug can be a BILLION dollar success, so taking a gamble with a few million is a good one if you have good data.
Here is the red flag on this story: IF THE DATA WERE THAT GOOD, THEY WOULD HAVE COMPLETED THE FDA REGISTRATION AND SOLD A DRUG.
Honestly, the money is better for drugs than nutritionals. What MLM company has ever created more revenue than a Celebrex, Viagra, Lipitor, or Claritin? It hasn’t. Don’t be fooled, people. Find a company that has good products, solid results, and a great comp plan.
DON’T GET SUCKED INTO A COMPANY BUILT ON HYPE AND A BINARY PLAN.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 12:32 am
Actually, if the data were THAT GOOD the last thing they would want to do is let the FDA classify it as a drug. Rudy, you need to get to know the enemy. This stuff IS REGISTERED with the FDA as a nutritional supplement. And as far as good products go, you are the one who has bought into the HYPE about drugs. Do dome research on the side effects of just the ones you named here. I worked for an insurance company and talked to members all day long about the detrimental effects of the poisonous drugs they were taking. I could go on for hours here. Oh, some serious research on network marketing and binary plans would serve you well here. Talk to Warren Buffett and Donald Trump for beginners.
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Rudy Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Cheryl, I definitely haven’t bought into hype about RX drugs. I must have been unclear. I know drugs have side effects. The point is economic. A successful drug is worth billions, regardless of side effects. If ASEA has the clinicals, show us where to find them. Something “this close” to being a drug would have them.
The FDA doesn’t regulate nutritional products. You should know that. Claiming something is registered with the FDA means nothing. E.L. Fudge cookies and twinkies are registered with the FDA.
As for binary plans an network marketing, Warren Buffet and Donald Trump own network marketing companies. They don’t participate as distributors. And neither of them owns a network marketing company with a binary plan. Some serious research on compensation might help you, Cheryl.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 8:59 am
OKAY, I did I misunderstand what the F stood for in FDA? I think you are telling me that nutritional supplements are not food products like E.L. Fudge and Twinkies which are registered??? May I introduce to the ASEA or the CieAura binary plans? I think they will be a pleasant surprise.
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concerned Reply:
March 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Donald Trump actually does own an MLM its called ideal health. just FYI but MLMs make more money quicker than a drug company… talk to Xango.
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Rudy Reply:
March 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
Yikes. Cheryl did you read my post?
Trump’s company used to be ideal health, now the Trump Network. Not a binary. Warren Buffet owns Pampered Chef. Not a binary.
MLMs don’t make money quicker than drugs once the drug gets to market. Talk to Pfizer, Bayer, Wyeth, or Merck.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
What you don’t understand here Rudy, is that unsuccessful drugs have produced billions. The lawyers really like the ones that (having passed the cynical trials) harm and kill people. Oh, woops! I mean “clinical”
I really don’t care about failed binary plans. I know some awesome successful binary plans that were graduates of the bad ones. I was referring to the new good ones I already noted. And, by the way, Trumps is one of the worst I have seen of the newer ones.
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
There is no such thing as “registration” with the FDA for a nutritional supplement. Cheryl, you are being fed a bunch of hype by your upline.
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March 5th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Sorry, Ty, my up line did not tell me that it was registered with the FDA. I’m a little confused here. Rudy says “the FDA doesn’t register nutritional products but E.L. Fudge cookies and twinkies are registered with the FDA.”???
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
FDA:
FDA regulates dietary supplements under a different set of regulations than those covering “conventional” foods and drug products (prescription and Over-the-Counter). Under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), the dietary supplement manufacturer is responsible for ensuring that a dietary supplement is safe before it is marketed. FDA is responsible for taking action against any unsafe dietary supplement product after it reaches the market. Generally, manufacturers do not need to register their products with FDA nor get FDA approval before producing or selling dietary supplements.* Manufacturers must make sure that product label information is truthful and not misleading.
Cheryl, God bless you. You seem like a good person but where are you getting your information?
Russ
03. Mar, 2010
This one statement tells the whole truth I think it is obserd to say they have enough money ha ha that is not human nature. I agree with Rudy statment above. Re read this fairytale and tell me it is not a scam!
I have met the CEO, the President and Gary Samuelson and can assure you that you will be hard pressed to find men of higher quality and more integrity in the whole world. Their motives for passing up a multimillion dollar offer from a drug company to ensure that this product was available to those who were benefiting from it are most honorable and admirable. As unbelievable as it sounds, they are not in it for the money, they have all they need. Their motive is humanitarian. You would do well to pay attention to the people who have actually met the company’s founders, read the book, listened to the presentations and used the product.
What a joke
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Russ, I would be happy to personally introduce you to the owners and the scientist. I don’t expect you to take my word for anything.
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bill Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Like I said…they are doig the Lord’s work. Some of you are so cynical. You are losers and I am a winner.
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dave
04. Mar, 2010
I don’t know where this comes from, but this link shows that there are no studies on ASEA other than microbial testing and safety testing–both of which are standard operating procedures for consumer goods companies.
http://www.merchantcircle.com/blogs/ASEA.SECRETS.DOT.COM.207-266-7772/2009/8/ASEA-FAQs/327897
“9. Have any clinical trials been conducted on ASEA™?
ASEA™ is a nutritional supplement. Besides extensive safety and antimicrobial testing, no other studies have or must be performed. ASEA™ does not claim to mitigate, prevent or cure any disease. ASEA™ simply contains the raw materials that our body and the immune system need to help protect us and defend us. There is extensive evidence, based on studies done on the individual reactive molecules contained in ASEA™, that these reactive molecules are indeed produced and used in large amounts by the body and the immune system. The role that these reactive molecules play in the body is becoming increasingly well understood and is actively being studied all over the world.”
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Dave, I cannot explain to you why it would be very unwise to claim or even use anecdotal stories of any healing power that ASEA may have. You will have to learn that for yourself. I was personallycontacted by the FDA about a product I used in 2002 that was very healing for me. They were looking for an excuse to shut the place down. I understandAESA’s reactive molecule theory and it works very well for me and my athletic family. Again, my best to you.
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dave Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Unwise to use anecdotal stores of healing power? See this link on the ASEA website. Confused.
http://www.teamasea.com/success.aspx
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
The issue here is the claim to CURE or HEAL certain diseases. That is a NO, NO.
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Howard
04. Mar, 2010
I have a terrible case of arthritis in both knees and my sponsor told me to add a bottle of Asea to my bath 4 times a week.
Now I feel great.
Thank you Asea!
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Bob Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
I bet your sponsor feels much better than you do knowing you are buying 4 cases a month to use in your bath water. Talk about money down the drain, I would at least re-use it. Unless $600 a month is no big deal.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Howard, If your sponsor told you to put it in your probably owes you a refund. ASEA denatures when mixed with any other liquid. I don’t see how the molecules could be reactive long enough to do much good in bath water. That is why they couldn’t improve the flavor of it. Taking 2 to 4 oz a day orally is the recommended use. However, I have had exceptional results spraying it on my face. Sea water never did that for me. This is really nice stuff.
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March 4th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Sorry, I meant to say; If your sponsor told you to put it in your bath water, he probably owes you a refund.
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Cornwell
04. Mar, 2010
Cheryl ,
My name is Jeremy and I recently joined the ASEA Team . I would love to get some more info like the book and etc. from you and learn how i could possibly meet the owners b/c i really want to get the physicians in my area on board!
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Jeremy, Have you contacted the corporate offices or your sponsor? 801-973-7499
They will be able to help you. You might be able to have them give me your number so I can call you. I’m not sure how else we could connect. I would be happy to send you a book.
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Liz
04. Mar, 2010
Maybe the folks at ASEA would like to use me as a guinea pig to see if this so called “wonder product” is really cut out with all the tout they claim, especially if they are saying they are doing “God’s” work and not in it for the money.
I have multiple sclerosis, was diagnosed with it 20 years ago and it has been benign until the February, 2009; at which time I was hospitalized for four days undergoing steroid treatment via IV. I do not take any of the injection disease moderating drugs, never have; and my insurance wouldn’t cover them if I chose too. But…my MS is no longer benign.
Now I am taking prescription narcolepsy drugs, to help with the fatigue, anti-spasm/spasticity drugs, and can no longer work, though I’ve worked and been VERY active all my life, physically and mentally.
So…if someone wants to “test” the product, for good or bad; I’d be willing to give it a try, but I don’t have $150.00 to pay for something that may or may not be a scam, work or doesn’t work. But…if the product works for me…even if it could only improve my life for a few hours a day…I’d be willing to spend $150 for it in the future.
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March 4th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Liz, I have experience with some really amazing products and healing modalities that have helped people with MS. Have you done your own research on the disease? My guess is that the ASEA would be among the best. Excellent nutrition would be paramount so that your body had the elements it needed to heal. Proanthocyanidins would be a great start. They are collagen binding and help restore nerve function. They are abundant in grape seed extract and Mangosteen fruit. I would be happy to teach you everything I know, no charge. I don’t know if it is legal for Ty to share my email with you or give me yours. Let’s see what he says when he audits these entries.
Best of luck to you. Cheryl
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Bob
05. Mar, 2010
Liz,
I don’t normally do this, but I have some good friends who have MS. I feel for what you have to go through, and you deserve any information that can help you deal with it as best as you can without being taken advantage of.
To start, those who do not understand MS can listen to Montel Williams explain his heart wrenching story to Oprah. He is a true champion: http://bit.ly/cZeNxe
Next, listen to what has become very important to him, the message he is heralding, and what will become important to you and people you care about: http://bit.ly/bHOALb
Finally watch the ABC Prime Time Special Report, and pay attention to the results John Quinones gets at the end: http://www.GainAdvantage.info
I believe Cheryl means well, but there is a MultiBillion dollar industry with an agenda. That agenda is not always in the best interest of the individual.
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Cheryl RN Reply:
March 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Protandim is a great product but there are naysayers as with everything. Antioxidants are an important part of the picture, they are however not the only factor.
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MaryAnne Reply:
March 8th, 2010 at 9:13 am
There is this guy who was diagnosed with skin cancer. He drank mega doses of a highly powerful antioxidant, thinking it would help his situation. Come to find out, this exotic juice (that contains sodium benzoate) was actually interfering with his …. (I’ll tell you the rest of the story if you’re interested.)
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Bob Reply:
March 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
whatever it is I would not be in the least bit surprised. Sodium Benzoate is poison, and direct antioxidant therapy is a multibillion dollar myth.
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Cheryl RN
05. Mar, 2010
I hardly feel that teaching someone everything I know about healing would be taking advantage of them. The most malignant MultiBillion dollar industries with an agenda are the pharmaceutical companies. Be my guest and buy into their products. Wellness does not pad their pockets.
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Bob
05. Mar, 2010
Cheryl,
As I mentioned I respect your intentions, and your qualifications as an RN. I know you have a true desire to help people. The ones that are actually taking advantage are the pharmaceutical companies.
As far as what I have shared with Liz goes, if there are any naysayers they will have to argue with dozens of the top universities, The American Heart Association, The National Library of medicine, PubMed.gov, Free Radical Biology & Medicine Journal, The News Media, etc.
It is irrefutable, and quite profound.
Hope this helps
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Cheryl RN
05. Mar, 2010
Bob, My expertise comes from way outside the allopathic box. I have studied Homeopathy, N.A.E.T., BodyTalk, Matrix Energetics, The Healing Codes, E.F.T., Tatlife, Zensite, and a host of other very healing modalities and substances. Please pardon me if I do not have the same respect for the AHA the Universities and your other trusted entities. (My sister worked in research for some of those same programs and was told exactly how and what was expected of her results.) I don’t care about the FDA, AMA, or the News Media in particular. They do not have my best interest at heart. Mainstream is not the only “irrefutable or profound way”. As a matter of fact “mainstream” News Media has lost a lot of credibility recently. There is much to benefit from in other countries, philosophies, healing practices even religions. I am not here to PROVE anything. I see a forest and am not interested in getting hung up in the trees.
If anyone out there would like to meet the founders of ASEA, study the information, try the product, I’m sure we could have an intelligent conversation. Until you’ve been to ROME I really do not want you to be my tour guide. My best to you all. 10-4
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liz
05. Mar, 2010
I thank you all for your kind emails; albeit no one actually addressed my email, perhaps it could be re-read, which would answer whether or not a product “worked” or not, mainly from the discussions pro and con, that I read on this blog. An answer for me by be an answers for others.
I’ve had MS for over twenty years, and know more about my disease than most of the doctors (with the exception of neurologist), that I see; as I’ve had to explain the process of myelin breakdown to a few of them.
It is a very difficult disease, as symptoms and course for one, are not the same for the other.
And I understand and sympathize with other people with MS that “chase cures”, bee veenom, etc., and they are preyed upon; but I don’t think they are preyed upon any more than any other person, otherwise we wouldn’t be plagued my emails from Nigerians saying they’ll give us 5m if we send them 50k to help free their frozen U.S. assets. Or these companies that advertise on TV that they will negotiage IRS settlements for pennies less than you owe, or FreeCredit.com (that is just a company NAME), not an entitlement, etc., etc. Victims are victims, you don’t have to have a medical handicap to be one; but I understand what people are saying, because there are many people with medical problems that are “easy prey”, because they allow themselves to be so, chasing a cure or a solution.
I do NOT take any of the injectable meds, though I am on a few pills for symptom relief/help. I had MS BEFORE the first injectables were released to the market, and went to a doctor’s synopsis on the “ABC” drugs when they were introduced. I knew from that pharmacuetically funded meeting I was not interested in “paying” to be a guinea pig for extremely expensive (and still are), drugs that may or may not be of any benefit. In my over twenty years of having MS and talking with other MS folks that take the drugs, I haven’t found one person yet that could either tolerate or get benefit from any of the injectables for over one year.
One of the meds I am on, is not “permitted” by the AMA to be prescribed for anything but pain, yet that drug, when I take it, enables me to walk without limp or foot drop, as it prevents my brain from receiving the “bad signal” from the
“shorted out wire” so to speak. On my part the drug was discovered by pure accident; the occassion was a trip to the dentist with a terribly infected tooth and was prescribed for the pain. My “WALLAH” moment was realized about two hours after I took it (it did kill the tooth ache pain very well!), was that I could walk “normally”. That prompted an immediate call/visit to my neurologist, and furthered my education on the AMA. It’s a wonder between the AMA and the pharmacuetical/insurance companies that we have anything in this country for the patient. Thankfully I have parathesia so bad in my right side it could be prescribed to me; but I take it very limited; I don’t want to become addicted to it; and I also never took any prescription drugs until earlier this year, so I really don’t like the idea of taking them now. Not bad for an old lady.
Unfortunately, with MS, until they find a “cause”, it will be hard for find a cure. When I was initially diagnosed the accepted train of thought was that MS was related to childhood measles; now, they are pointing fingers at Vitamin D, calcium deficiencies either in the womb or early childhood developement. The latter makes sense to me, as I was allergic to milk until I was about nine.
They are curing EAE in mice with Lipitor in England. With 60mg a day for (I think, if memory serves me right…which it may no longer do..(smile), two weeks. Since we weigh more than mice, how many milligrams would a human need, a billion miiligrams a day? (smile).
I thank you all for your kind words, and each and every one of you have made for very interesting reading and wonderful debate and you each bear merit to what you say. I appreciate it all.
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Bob Reply:
March 6th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Liz,
Although this is a forum discussing the legitimacy of Asea, your testimony is heartfelt, strikes a very familiar chord within me, so here is a bit more info.
I am careful about making false claims, and giving false hope.
I hope that Asea proves us wrong some day, and maybe Cheryl will be willing to provide you with free samples.
On a proven note:
I am sure Ty will be able to share information on what is the Vanguard in Nutraceutical liquid supplementation.
There are a vast amount of studies in PubMed.gov on the All Natural ingredients in the impressive products he represents.
They have a wide array of proven benefits.
As far as direct results in the MS category:
Montel Williams has a testimony. Several years ago he added Protandim to his regiment. Last year he started feeling horrible again, and he was determined to find out why. He discovered that he ran out of the product, and when he went back on it within days he was normal again. He immediately called the company up and said; “you need my help, what can I do to help you.” He has heralded the message ever since. You cannot buy testimonies like this, nor do we have to.
Here is a video with his testimony (hard to hear some of it).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oUjU3PB9EQ
In his words, “inflammation is Kryptonite for people with MS.”
A test sampling can be arranged.
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concerned Reply:
March 6th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
I love reading all your “intelligent” conversations. As a side note, my mother always told me to try my drink before I complained about how awful it was. If any of you “informed” people had tried Asea, before bashing it you would KNOW it wasn’t just “salt water”. Salt water doesn’t taste like pool water. If you think how something is “processed” doesn’t effect it’s properties then you are more naive than you look. Try, oh I dunno microwaving a steak. and tell me it tastes the same or is just as healthy. the ingredients: Steak. The quality…. well I think you can guess. It’s the same principle. Try not to flaunt your ignorance
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Riven
06. Mar, 2010
Asea works for my mom…took all her bursitis pain in her knees away after 5 days, worked for my uncle and aunty who both have major health problems and they STILL buy a case a month and dont give a rip about the business. Worked for my friend Janeen who is a PhD and saw her entire family benefit from Asea even the negative husband who has documented proof from Kaiser doctors on how his blood pressure and heart rate went down…how long do i have in this post? oh well email me if you want more real life testimonials. I’m right here In Hawaii and its a small island, cant burn your bridges, Asea is doing amazing things for people.
I learned that you can either learn from someone successful at something or NOT. I find it funny that people who have never tried getting a group of 8+ they care about to SEE if this “salt water” Asea would really work. I did cause i was the biggest skeptic ever.
Thats my challenge to anyone, do your due diligence give it to people you care about and let them tell you what happens, thats all the evidence i needed…sorry internet blogger
Mahalo for hearing my opinion,
Please email me at Rivenfire@gmail.com
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MaryAnne
08. Mar, 2010
Asea like w/everything new & different is going thru the ridiculed phase, then becomes opposed. However,
it’s already becoming self evident.
The amazing growth of ASEA is due to the fact more & more people are becoming aware the power of the product, the legitimacy of the science.
ASEA is clean of Anabolic Steroids, Diuretics, Opiates, Corticosteroids, Beta Blockers & Stimulants. It provides naturally 12% endurance.
ASEA even went so far as to run additional tests such as mass spectroscopy to assist labs in understanding the molecular structure of ASEA.
Does ASEA sound complicated? You’re not alone. Before long people will start talking about molecules just like with antioxidants….lol.
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Bob Reply:
March 12th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Hi MaryAnne,
Thank you for sharing. Actually, to ecpand on what you have offered; people have been talking about molecules for hundreds of years, and to be more specific “Reactive Molecules” have been in literature for decades as well. Unfortunately for Asea one type of reactive molecule is “Reactive oxygen molecules”which are what causes Oxidative stress in the first place. (There are thousands known) Hence the need for the Natural Antioxidants you were born with. In a way the Asea literature is oxymoronic unless they are more specific. The “amazing growth of Asea” is not a convincing point as of yet. One of my partners for example was the Master Distributor for Zrii for and set records, until he found some things were simply not true He was faced with one of the toughest decisions of his career: Money with an opportunity driven product, or integrity, which has unmeasurable value.
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Bob Reply:
March 12th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Forgive the typos, I posted before finishing. The final thing I wanted to mention was:
We all hope Asea does amazing things, and look forward to the evidence in the form of Peer reviewed published studies.
It does not look however like they intend to do so, based on the F.A.Q. on the site: “Besides extensive safety and antimicrobial testing, no other studies have or must be performed”.
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Ty Tribble
09. Mar, 2010
From the ASEA Web Site:
“9. Have any clinical trials been conducted on ASEA™?
ASEA™ is a nutritional supplement. Besides extensive safety and antimicrobial testing, no other studies have or must be performed. ASEA™ does not claim to mitigate, prevent or cure any disease. ASEA™ simply contains the raw materials that our body and the immune system need to help protect us and defend us. There is extensive evidence, based on studies done on the individual reactive molecules contained in ASEA™, that these reactive molecules are indeed produced and used in large amounts by the body and the immune system. The role that these reactive molecules play in the body is becoming increasingly well understood and is actively being studied all over the world.”
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I want to post more documents…but it won’t let me.
This is what we have so far.
I will be posting more documents
http://www.discoverasea.com/university/pdf/ASEA_saftey.pdf
http://www.discoverasea.com/university/pdf/ASEA_verification.pdf
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Bob
10. Mar, 2010
Thank you Matthew,
Those docs are available on the site, and have been produced by Asea. Peer reviewed clinical studies would be in the best interest of the company, distributors, and customers in the longer term. It would not be difficult to study and document the benefits if there are any.
They usually cost hundreds of thousands of dollars minimum, and are then published. The cost can sometimes be sponsored by a major university or institution if the merit of the product warrants the self funding.
The human body is an amazing miracle with the innate ability to gravitate towards healing. I do believe we have been given everything we need on this planet, as many people in Asea do. Unfortunately Man is often his worst enemy.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 10th, 2010 at 10:08 am
No Prob.
I know that in time we will have more information made available to us. This company is a growing baby.
What this product has done for Michelle (my beautiful wife) and Steven (My son) has been amazing.
As soon as I get more information…I will pass it on.
Here is some information that may help as well.
http://www.matthewadams.biz/wordpress/?cat=90
Be Well!
Matthew Adams
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Bill Reply:
March 10th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Matthew, I agree completely. This product has helped me immensely as well. I was scheduled to take my family to the beach this summer and cannot afford to. I bought a lot of Asea and loaded our above ground pool with it. They are so proud of me. We are going to the beach in our own back yard this summer. I am a winner!
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Matthew Adams
10. Mar, 2010
Wow…really Bill?
Why are you even here dude?
Amazing….truly amazing.
Matthew
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Samm
11. Mar, 2010
Bill,
The “winners” are those that are knowledgeable and respectful.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Thank you Samm.
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Dr. Ahmad
11. Mar, 2010
Bill,
That is not even funny. There is no clinical validation for using ASEA in that manner. Come to think of it, there is no clinical validation for using ASEA whatsoever so who am I to judge?
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Wow…the funny people are out today.
Those are still coming and in the works.
Patience is the key word here.
Matthew
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Dan Mitchell Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Wow…the patient people are out today.
ASEA will be out of business within 12 months…let’s meet back here in 2011.
Patience is the key word here.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The same could be spoken of whatever company that you belong with Dan.
Be careful…your agenda is showing.
Have a blessed day!
Matthew
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Dave
11. Mar, 2010
Well, Dr. Ahmad has a point, even if you don’t think it’s funny. There are a host of us that are hearing about this amazing product with 20+ patents and millions of dollars of research behind it–but we’re still waiting to see the data.
There are lots of companies out there that will sell you hype and dreams. If the product really has the clinicals, show them to us who are “skeptics.”
The patents appear to be on the process of making the sodium chloride distilled water solution, not the product.
There are no studies to speak of, except one that makes claims based on one athlete who increased Vo2 max in 14 days. Guess what. I exercised for 14 days straight and you won’t believe what happened to my Vo2 max.
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
All of you are a bit impatient…it takes time for the data to be made public. There are rules to follow. The leaders want to make sure that this is done right.
The same could be said for Monavie, EIRO. XanGo…and the hundreds of others.
If you belong to another company…give us the same respect that you would deserve…nothing more nothing less.
Geez…I feel like I am dealing with the people at a certain scam site.
Matthew
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Matthew Adams
11. Mar, 2010
I guess what is kinda crazy here…is the following.
Many of you (if not all of you) are here because you believe in the NetWork Marketing industry. That is what this Blog is all about. A support structure for this wonderful industry.
Here is what I don’t understand. Why is it we feel we need to come on this blog…rip into another person’s business…because it is in direct competition with our own?
Are you that desperate?
Is your business that sorry?
Are you that unhappy?
People…we are all in this together. We have very few enemies…the top of the list is the drug companies & the FTC. Why the heck are we fighting EACH OTHER??!!??
Listen…you may not like the fact a new company has surfaced and MAY be in competition with you…but we are here…and there is nothing that you can do about it…welcome to the free world. My bet is…when you first started with your business…you had to defend your decision. Did you enjoy it? Did it make their business sound better…or self serving?
If you don’t understand the science…then ASK.
If you feel you need to make wise ass remarks…go elsewhere. If you have questions…just ask!
This business is about getting products in the hands of people that you and I both know…main stream business could not do.
If you do not believe in this industry…please go elsewhere.
This thread started out as an attack on my company. How about we all behave like adults…and instead of calling each other names and saying, “my daddy is bigger than your daddy”…we support each other. Is it worth putting another persons business down…and looking like a fool…with your pants on the ground? {grin}
Think about it…the internet is a big place…and word gets around…FAST!
P.S. I appreciate you!
Remember…Live up to your potential,
Matthew Adams
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Bill Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
I agree with Matthew. You guys that disagree with Matt and I are losers. You do not understand that we have every right to sell salt water for $120 per case. Just because you like swimming pool water does not mean that we are wrong. We are winners! You are losers!
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Ty Tribble Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Matthew,
I think it is more about what this type of hocus pocus product does to the overall reputation of Network Marketing.
It’s $150 a case Salt Water that the company has said needs no further scientific explanation.
“Have any clinical trials been conducted on ASEA™?
ASEA™ is a nutritional supplement. Besides extensive safety and antimicrobial testing, no other studies have or must be performed. “
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Matthew Adams Reply:
March 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
First Bill…go back to SCAM.Com where you belong.
Ty…I do agree with you that “Yes” this industry needs some serious monitoring. Really.
But you my friend have been in this industry long enough to know this. You Ty Tribble have a name in this industry. Why not ask the leaders (Corporate) those questions. Brother…look at your own products…how long did it take to get the data. Now…I am not talking data taken from other companies selling juice. I am talking about your OWN data. What about the data from your other products.
There is data…but it is about timing. The data must go through a process before it is released. This is so strange Ty…you know this to be true…yet you act like you do not.
what gives bro?
Matthew Adams
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Mike Reply:
March 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Matthew, the reason there are so many people commenting on ASEA is that there are two types of Network Marketing companies that we compete with. One is those whose products are real, and based on science, and two, those who only SEEM to be selling hype. I don’t know where ASEA falls into those two categories, but have not seen any evidence to support that they are firmly in caregory one.
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