There is a new liquid "nutritional" product out on the marketplace that caught my attention. Now, it didn't catch my attention because of a revolutionary compensation plan (it's a copy of a couple of other companies). What caught my attention is the product.
How do I put this? It's Salt Water!
This company wants you to buy a case of Salt Water for $150.
Seriously, I took a screen capture of the label:
Ingredients: Distilled Water and Sodium Chloride. Uhhhh, that's Salt Water!
The site has a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo simulated science, but the label is pretty clear.
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Do your research. You need to know about the science and I have reviewed research on redox signaling with many diseases. Asea is ahead of it's time.
My research seeking an independent source of theoretical or clinical research on the product turned up nothing. The medical and scientific journals sited in the advertisement aren’t really known to be an impressive collection of scientific journals by the scientific communities. If the product is good as it claims, I should have found a solid research studies in RESPECTABLE scientific journals. What are they?
This boring personal attack with no value added to the conversation has been removed. Thanks anyways, Dale.
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Redox signaling molecules is a term used for a huge variety of complex proteins. They are not salt or water. This product, it's pseudoscience and claims are a scam, plain and simple. Google scholar "redox signaling molecules" and you'll see the same thing.
Since I don’t know diddly squat about how this works at the molecular level I’ll just say this, it works and there is absolutely nothing in it that can harm me. I started taking it on the advice of my sister, a wellness professional, for my blood pressure. I recently played 18 holes of golf for the first time in 2 years and not only did I not experience any fatigue from the 13th hole in, as I had in the past, but the muscles that should have been killing me, were only tender the next day!
I also had a couple liver spots, one on my temple, and one on my forehead. I put the Asea on one and not the other and in 6 weeks it is almost completely gone. Plus my BP is almost back to normal.
I also have seen two cases where patients taking Asea, along with their regular meds have had such good results that their doctors have checked out the product and are recomending it to their other patients.
Don’t get hung up on how it works, Just take advantage of the fact that it does!
Ty, Maybe you would like to mention that ASEA has recently published 6 of their 31 patents.
Yes it’s true ASEA is salt water (less salt than a carrot). However it is molecularly restructured. You can not get it at the market, go to the ocean, or even have it at the hospital ( which BTW uses salt water to hydrate you via IV drip), these molecules are found only inside the body until now. This is breakthrough science. I am on it. I have a 2 very serious illnesses, and my doctors can see the difference in my labs. It will not cure you but….It will up your absorption rate so what you are taking i.e. meds and/or vitamins are more effective and utilized in the body. It will rid your body of toxins and pollution. It will help your body to reverse cell damage. It will make you healthier. It is non-toxic, stable, native to the body, chemical free and scientifically researched. It is endorsed by doctors and patented by the US governent.
Which patents name Asea?
So what is the patent that names ASEA?
After reading what you said about Asea I would not believe one word you say about any company.
OK, except that nothing on this blog has been proven wrong. If anything is wrong and proven so, it is updated. FYI. still looking for these patents that mention ASEA.
This Ty Tribble. Blogging author. Who does he think he is? He knows nothing of the clinical trials.
So I chose to do my own research directly on the ASEA web site to prove this guy wrong.
Here is what I found:
Hmmm. I found nothing.
Still I believe that Mr. Tribble is very wrong, even though there is no proof.
Yes, I did find an older quote from Google Cache since the ASEA change the sites:
“9. Have any clinical trials been conducted on ASEA™?
ASEA™ is a nutritional supplement. Besides extensive safety and antimicrobial testing, no other studies have or must be performed.”
Take that, Tribble. You are a loser and I am a winner in the Salt Water business.
ASEA has 33 patents. Only a few people will know the formula that is process in three days. Sooner or later you will come across someone that is using ASEA, and they can tell you their story on how it is helping them. Go to www. pubmed.gov and read up on signaling molecules. You will get over 8000 peer review articles.
***Yawn. Link to one peer reviewed article that mentions “ASEA”.***
- Editor
I think all patents are public domain. I have gone to several web pages in the past to review a patent. So, if there are patents they will available. Go to “http://www.uspto.gov/patents/index.jsp” to search for a patent.
After being told by some of the best Pulmonologist at National Jewish, there was no more they could do for me, that I was at the end stages of my condition and that I did not have log to live, I did not look at ASEA as a business. Not having anything to lose I tried ASEA. After 62 days my Pulmonologist was amazed at my improvment. Today after 6 months my life has changed so drastically that I have become a distributer and that has also made a big change in my life. When you are smart enough to know the difference between ingredients and the result of the ingredients being changed by the process they undergo, then talk to me. ASEA has given me a quality of life thought impossible by people a lot smarter than you. Do your research before you make judgments.
I have read several places this product has patents, but none are ever given, also I did go to pubmed and read the research on redoxing, enlightening but never a mention of ASEA…. where is the science on this product????
why do they have to put it on the label? drug companies do not put all the chemicals they use on pill bottles.oh, its because they own the fda!!!
I am a user of ASEA, and I love it! It has helped me tremendously with increasing energy, brain fog has lifted, balanced my moods, curbs my appetite, decreased my anxiety, and has given me more endurance for exercise. I also spray it on cuts, burns, scrapes, rashes, in eyes, ears, and nose and have noticed a faster healing response. I know this is not just salt water. I have tried many other nutritional products in the past and have never had a noticeable difference. It is redox signaling molecules that are communicators of our cells to detect, repair, and reproduce. It helps our body heal itself at the cellular level. A true health/science breakthrough. What I have noticed so far is everyone in this company have a heart and they are wanting to give people a better quality of life. Try ASEA and see what it does for you!
Here are the links to the actual Patent Application Publication for ASEA:
http://aseapowersport.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/us20090110749a1aseapatents.pdf
U.S. Patent Website: (You can verify the patent numbers on the document above)
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,560,816.PN.&OS=PN/5,560,816&RS=PN/5,560,816
Here are some links for the ASEA patents:
http://aseapowersport.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/us20090110749a1aseapatents.pdf
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,560,816.PN.&OS=PN/5,560,816&RS=PN/5,560,816
Of course, no mention of ASEA in the patent.
Verdis Norton is the owner and founder of the company. His name is listed on the first page of the Patent Application Publication under “inventor”.
Only thing i can say is i’m a kayaker and fish alot of tournaments untill my knees just couldnt peddle the hobie no more with out being in pain for a day or two after. 30 day’s taking asea and now i’m back and plan to win the next couple i don;t care if its science mumbo jumbo doesn’t add up. I just know it’s helping me and the doctors were givin me masking pills for the pain screwing up my liver. No placebo would cover that pain i felt. Sorry folks have to go with it works.
Richard, you wouldn’t be selling this product as well, would you? Always interesting how products are amazing and revolutionary when you have a financial interest in the sales.
ASEA was prescribed by my ND, but since she has prescribed several bottles and it is, indeed, very expensive, she gave me a # to wholesale distributor. She is not gaining anything money-wise, as far as the results, I am willing to invest in it and see what happens. My ND is Dr. Riа Gilday, she is all over the net and she is know as a very reputable doctor. We’ll see what happens, I’ll keep you posted.
Asea works for everyone of my friends and family who has tried it. Yes I sell it because I would feel guilty for not sharing the single greatest health breakthrough since penicillin.
The patent numbers are at http://www asea.net There are also numerous studies that have been preformed on this product for as much proof as you want. The best test is to try it for 90 days and you be the judge if it works or not.
Karen
I really like the ASEA product. Ive been on it for a few months and my asthma is gone! I have suffered from asthma for 40 years, one or two inhalers every month, 2-4 puffs every day. Asthma triggered by dust, laughing, exersize, walking, running, cold temps, smoke, allergens.
Now nothing triggers it. Its incredible. I cant make myself get it. Im sure though if i stop taking asea, it will come back. Im not willing to try. Im loving life now. I bought asea at http:www.redoxhealth.net because they have single bottle samples there.
Brandon
The power of water. 211 degrees……. what do you have? Hot Water! ok, so make one small change.
212 degrees, just one degree hotter, now what do you have? boiling water. you can now use that same water to power a locomotive across the USA, or a steamboat up the Mississippi river. All from one small change to the water. So in the case of asea, its the process that they put the salt water thru that makes it so incredible. I know it works, it ended my asthma! check the book on amazon for $3 its called "the greatest health breakthrough ever".
Brandon, based on my research there is about a 99% chance that you own REDOXHEALTH.net!!!!!
Did you even have Asthma?
So know your name is Ben? I thought your name was Brandon…so interesting that Brandon also lives in the same town you do, New Braunfels, also interesting that this town is home to the person who owns REDOXHEALTH.net and that you both (supposedly) have been cured of your Asthma by ASEA.
People like you killed Jesus…. talk shit before you find out wtf is up.
Ty, It’s amazing how easy you are to put people down. You must be a loney person and have nothing better to do..
Yes, this Ty Tribble..He is the one who killed Jesus. Talking all this kind of trash like wanting to see proof and actual evidence. He is a loser and Necrash and I are winners in the Salt Water Business.
WTFWJD
And to my friend Jenny, I am also certain that this Ty Trible is loney and he have nothing better to do than to warn people about our wonderful salt water business.
Of course, I am not sure what loney mean, but it sound like Ty Trible.
Jenny and I are not loney, we will be masters of the salt water business together.
This Ty Trible thinks he is so funny. Did you see what he said about Asea curing “soap in the eyes”?
http://mlmblog.net/site/2010/02/asea-cures-soap-in-the-eyes.html
This Ty Trible have no idea what I big problem is soap in the eyes.
Take this from Dr. Ahmad, it’s no funny business.
i just thought id look to see what forums are saying about asea and i cant belive that the advocates for this product miracle water are talking shit about this dude ty’s character. he makes some valid points. though i do wish that asea is all itt says it is im skeptical as well. the power of placebo is incredible…. that has been studied
I have used it myself for a couple of weeks, just out of curiosity (no having known diseases to cure). I got the impression that it DID actually improve my energy and strenght, but.. what about side effects? the brochure says no problems because the molecule is within us and our body already produces it, but the same goes with morphine, no problems in taking it, except that taking it will stop your own production, and you become an addict… Any risk of a similar effect? I understand that this stuff has not been tested or approved by FDA or any other sanitary authority across the world.
So, this magical stuff somehow knows the difference between good chemicals (drugs) and bad chemicals (toxins.) Pretty amazing stuff!
CassDecosta says:
“It will up your absorption rate so what you are taking i.e. meds and/or vitamins are more effective and utilized in the body. It will rid your body of toxins and pollution.”
Drinking more water will relieve a LOT of problems that we have, firstly because people are generally running at some level of dehydration. Secondly, drinking water will cause you drink less “other stuff” which also helps a lot of the problems people are causing for themselves.
Anecdotal evidence is NO substitute for clinical trials and clinical studies.
True, using this product won’t hurt you, but it WILL hurt your wallet… If you feel better using it, then go ahead. It’s your money. Trying to convince other people to use it just so you can fatten your wallet is immoral. There will ALWAYS be snake oil salesmen.
You want to be healthy? Eat low carbs, oils, and fats, and lots of fresh fruits and veggies. Raw is better. The body is amazing, and if we would stop poisoning it, we’d be much healthier!
Oh, and distilled water is NOT good for you, it’s actually BAD for you. It will take some of the trace elements OUT of your system when you drink it. Research it yourself, water that is TOO pure is NOT good for you…
They forgot to list the most important ingredients: HYPE and BULLSHIT. These have been known to increase sales to granola-heads by up to 1000%!
211 degrees……. what do you have? Hot Water! ok, so make one small change.
212 degrees, just one degree hotter, now what do you have? boiling water. you can now use that same water to power a locomotive across the USA, or a steamboat up the Mississippi river. All from one small change to the water. So in the case of asea, its the process that they put the salt water thru that makes it so incredible.
We have been able to cure several athsmatics with ASEA, it only took the first one to notice, the rest was easy.
you guys are all the same! ty.. i appreciate you trying to uncover some kind of truth so i cant hate on you. but you others…… shame! its people who search for answers and question things that keep this world rotating. sheep who keep on saying yes, yes, yes.. and keep on believing without a hint of question belong in the bible belt without internet.. ever wonder how wild touch screen and wifi is? have you ever onced tried to find out wth this phenomena is?? if you havent its because youre a sheep! keep on buying things you dont need and keep on working and keep on wondering why youll never be able to retire.. ty.. i dont know what im even talking about anymore.. you people fry my brain with all this mlm stuff.. fanatics!!!
NONSENSE….I went through the beginning of COSTLY and horrific biopsies and then stopped and started to do the ASEA treatments.I took the ingredients to others who are equated to science.They were amazed.I do not care to argue with you or prove anyting to you excrpt that my tumor in my jaw and neck is shrinking quikcly.So why try to find scams?CHECK OUT THE AMA AND PHARMA AND AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY SCAMS. And see who funds and walks hand in hand for self interests…This should be an endless research project for sure… Best wisehs:James Wilkinson
The above linked patent describes a device that could make Asea. The device creates an electric field that drives the electrolysis of water, and upon addition of NaCl, there are many chemical species created through oxidation-reduction reactions. Such chemicals include bleach (hypochlorite), ozone, and reactive-oxygen-species (ROS). The device apparently overcomes problems with previous devices in that it avoids the generation of unwanted toxic compounds and that it produces a more uniform product. The concentrations of the chemicals attained by the device allegedly have antimicrobial activity as well as “enhance the immune system.”
The patent is not proof that Asea works. The patent just states what the patent applicants claim they have done. There isn’t a drop of data on the effectiveness of Asea. The only thing presented are a couple of pictures of their device that could make Asea. IS THIS THE ONLY EVIDENCE ASEA HAS TO OFFER? (please, no testimonials)
My colleague spray some on a hypertrophic scar and it seemed to mend. I have lots of body acne scars and hypertropic scars. I will buy a box and test it out. Will post results.
i bought some of this stuff because a few of my family members tried it and claimed to have pretty good results with arthritis pain. i am extremely skeptical and never go for pyramid scams. when the stuff gets here i will post with any significant changes i may notice. i don’t have any ailments and am pretty young, active, and healthy. apparently it takes a couple weeks before you notice a difference. we will see. hope i can help a few people sort this out. get back to you as soon as possible.
what?
That makes zero sense to me. How can you be sure of the chemistry which supposedly makes this product a breakthrough? Where are the 16 chemically recombined products of salt and water listed in the ingredients? I've tried this, it tastes like pool water with table salt in it. The best part is Multi-Level Marketing/buy your own business/direct sales schemes are already disreputable, but when you have a product that is clearly a repackaging of snake oil it becomes downright hilarious.
Nolan Colburn Those who have ears to hear, will hear.
What are the benefits of Redox Signaling molecules?
Helps in the preservation and restoration of healthy tissues and cells.
When cells and tissues are damaged, by everyday living (sunlight, toxins, cuts, scrapes, exercise, infections, radiation etc.) they send out Redox Signaling messages for help. This starts a cascade of messengers that are quickly spread throughout the affected area where they call for action to start the healing process (blood supply is redirected, native antioxidants empowered and increased, DNA repair elicited, immune response initiated, inflammation, cell communication enhanced, regeneration efforts started, etc.). The healing process is a well orchestrated effort to either repair the damaged cells or cause the un-repairable cells to die and be replaced by healthy ones and thus restore healthy cells and tissue.
Increasing the amount of balanced Redox Signaling carriers in your cells and tissues simply helps to make this whole orchestrated effort much more efficient. They “grease the wheels”, so to speak, making it more likely that cells are repaired and replaced much more efficiently. Healthy cells are more likely to be able to defend themselves, the immune system is more likely to respond correctly, intercellular communication channels are clearer and more efficient. The concept is elegant, these Redox Signaling carriers do not force the system to act or react differently than it already does. It simply clarifies the signals that help the immune response and healing process proceed as it should, and do so much more efficiently.
Anti-aging benefits
As we age, the healing process becomes less efficient. Cells and tissues that are damaged or inefficient are not repaired or replaced as efficiently. Gradually these damaged or inefficient cells divide and proliferate, taking over the healthy “young” tissue and causing the downward spiral that leads to aging and death. The cells and tissues are simply not as efficient as they used to be at doing their job.
By Increasing the balanced mixture of Redox Signaling messengers that are already in the body this has the effect of making the defend, repair or replace mechanisms in the cells and tissues much more efficient: Damaged cells are more likely to repair themselves or die and be replaced by healthy neighboring cells, healthy cells are more likely to be able to defend themselves against infections, toxins, stresses, etc. In essence, cells and tissues are more likely to stay young and healthy.
Powers up the cell’s antioxidant shields.
Certain Redox Signaling molecules are used to recharge and activate the native antioxidants that protect healthy cells from oxidative stress and free radical damage. Your cells are already full of these native antioxidants, they are placed as barriers that protect the more sensitive parts of the cells, such as the DNA in the nucleus. Every microsecond, trillions and trillions of these antioxidants in every cell are doing their job to protect the every cell from oxidants. Oxidants are also natively produced as part of the normal metabolism of sugars that provides our cells with energy. As long as the mixture of Redox Signaling molecules is balanced, the antioxidants in the cells and tissues are easily able to defend themselves against such oxidants.
Increasing the amount of balanced Redox Signaling molecules in the cells and tissues helps recharge and activate the native antioxidants that are already in the cells, making them much more efficient. This enhances the natural protection mechanisms of the cell, naturally, powering up the natural antioxidant shields that are already placed there for just that purpose, making the healthy cells and tissues more likely to be able to defend themselves.
Tunes up cell’s communication channels.
Every cell in the body MUST be able to communicate with its neighboring cells in order to function correctly. Communication channels exist that allow messengers to run back and forth between cells. These messengers actually program the DNA in the cells to act as it should in the environment where they live. The discovery of stem cells, that are programmed to act as heart cells or brain cells or whatever tissue they stick to, emphasizes how important these communication channels are. Redox Signaling carriers help move these messengers from cell to cell as well as sending the signals inside and between cells.
An increase in the amount of balanced Redox Signaling molecules makes the cell’s communication channels more efficient. This is especially important when the tissues must respond to a stressor or invader. Quick and accurate response is important. Efficient communication channels make it more likely that the cells and immune systems will respond as they are designed to do.
Optimizes correct immune system function.
In order for the immune system to function as it should, a myriad of communication signals need to be carried between cells, signals that detect damage, signals that control blood flow and control inflammation, signals that activate the immune system response and help determine when, where and what the immune cells attack (and what they do not attack). The immune response is a coordinated effort that depends heavily on Redox Signaling and other types of signaling.
Increasing the amount of balanced Redox Signaling molecules helps make the signaling processes between cells more efficient. With clearer signals, the immune system can operate with increased efficiency. This means that the immune system will be more likely to detect and attack threats that it should engage and less likely to attack healthy cells that it should not engage. This action tends to normalize the immune system function, if overactive it will help decrease its activity, if underactive it will help increase activity. In short, the immune system will tend to operate at optimal efficiency.
Powers up aerobic performance.
As the energy requirements of the cells and tissues increase during aerobic activity, oxygen and sugars in the blood must be able to be transferred from the lungs and energy stores into the muscle cells and tissues. Waste products like CO2 and excess lactates must be transferred out of the cells and tissues and back into the blood and out of the body. The efficiency at which the cells can move oxygen fuel and waste products back and forth through the blood and cellular membranes determines how long the body can sustain aerobic activity. When the oxygen and energy demands of the muscle tissues exceed the ability of the body to maintain adequate delivery, the muscle cells and tissues start to burn internal energy stores anaerobically (without the use of oxygen), waste products (CO2 and lactates) start to build up and further interfere with the aerobic processes. When the internal energy stores of the muscle cells are exhausted, no more energy can be provided and muscle activity ceases completely.
Increasing the amount of balanced Redox Signaling molecules in the body helps normalize the Redox potential in and around the cells and tissues. A balanced Redox potential in the tissues increases the efficiency at which oxygen, fuels and wastes can be transferred in and out of cells and tissues, making the natural aerobic processes more efficient. If aerobic capacities are increased, then the natural length of time that aerobic activity can be sustained under high energy demands is also increased. The time that it takes to recover normal aerobic balance after an intense anaerobic effort is also shortened.
The patents for ASEA can be found if you research MDI-P (the original name for ASEA when it was being developed by a pharmaceutical company.) Let me set the record straight on this product… The “saltwater” is indeed salt water. Don’t forget salt water is two words. The truth is is that the salt water in the product is what keeps the molecules stable. The molecules are not listed on the ingredients list because they can’t be. They are composed of about 3 atoms. Now to set the record straight on the science behind redox signaling (ROS) molecules; the company that was doing the research on MDI-P (now known as ASEA) spent about 9 years researching this coming out with quite a few press releases about how the product has “surprising anti HIV capabilities.” Now since this product is now under the “natural” category all the research that was conducted cannot be used to validate ASEA. The FDA says so. If you want to research ASEA don’t type ASEA into google. Type redox signaling and or ROS molecules.