Additional details have come in about the Imagenetix vs. MonaVie Multi-Billion Dollar lawsuit.
In my last post I wrote about a "culture of overlooking" and I am now more convinced that is true of the leadership behind MonaVie. There is little question that MonaVie has (had?) some serious momentum. The only question is how they got the momentum. It appears at this point that much of the momentum was created with questionable claims about the MonaVie juice product.
I feel bad for the individuals within "The Team", apparently mislead about the leadership behind MonaVie. They leave the lawsuits, chaos and turmoil of Quixtar to find themselves with a $2.75 Billion lawsuit hanging over their heads, (out of the frying pan and into the fire, so to speak).
OK, enough commentary and opinion, here is a great summary of what is known from IBOFightBack at Get The Facts – The Truth About Amway and Quixtar:
MonaVie apparently added small amounts of Celadrin to one of their products for a brief time in 2005, but never purchased further supplies of Celadrin, and never obtained the sub-licence to use the Celadrin trademark. Despite this, there exist over 10,000 webpages advertising MonaVie as containing Celadrin and promoting Celadrin’s health benefits – including recent sites by TEAM affiliated former Quixtar IBOs, the major MonaVie training company, Black Diamond University, and even a document still available on MonaVie’s own corporate website.
According to the Imagentix There also exists video footage from
February this year (2008) of MonaVie’s top distributor, Black Diamond
Brig Hart, explicitly describing Celadrin as an ingredient in MonaVie
Active and touting Celadrin’s health benefits.
Remember what I said about a "culture of overlooking"?
Based on the number of questionable health claims that I found on YouTube and throughout the Internet, there was a culture of touting these claims within MonaVie. This is much less of a problem when the touting is done face to face, but we don’t (only) live face to face any longer. We also live with technology. MonaVie associates took their illegal claims enthusiasm for the product online and eventually ran into trouble when the claims were pointed out.
Culture in Network Marketing does not happen from the bottom – up, it happens from the top – down. In other words, low level associates did not all of a sudden get a bright idea to start talking about how MonaVie cures Lyme Disease. It was part of the culture.
Now we have this whole Celadrin issue.
There is clearly no Celadrin in MonaVie, yet everyone from the company to the top distributor (Brig Hart) is talking about the benefits of the Celadrin found in MonaVie.
Again, it’s the culture.
If the leaders are saying: "We’ll look the other way and things will be OK as long as we are growing."
That is not true leadership and clearly that is not that way to operate a business that so many people rely on as their sole income.
"There is no moral precept that does not have something inconvenient about it."
– Denis Diderot
Denis,
I have been involved with MonaVie for 11 months now and have "Never" heard any remarks pretaining to this Celadrin. Furthermore, MonaVie had not made claims to cure any disease. MonaVie is a food source containing 19 fruits, and nothing more. I think you are just someone who likes to stir up trouble, and you need to get your facts straight.
Oh dear …. Ty Tribble as Diderot … the mind truly boggles ….
Apart from not getting that fact straight Mr MonaVie Distributor, it's a lawsuit, go read it yourself.
this is BS!
monavie is a good 19 fruit source of vitamin and other good things in there…
i never heard of such thing like this and i dont not believe a single thing that is on this website. Oh btw, if you died over 2centuries ago. why are you still online?
Hey,
I died over two centuries ago!
Who is this impostor?
I do, however love to stir up trouble like creating $2.75 Billion lawsuits and making sure that MonaVie distributors put their Cancer claims in writing.
What a SHOCK – TEAM's leadership tied to a company making claims that were extracted from their anal cavity.
Poor Orrin – everywhere he goes his "genius" is so MISUNDERSTOOD.
Why is it that people keep mistaking him for a shyster?
Go TEAM Go…he..he..he..he
It's hard being the Messiah – "Let him who is without fruit juice cast the first stone" Orrin 5:23
Ugh.
I used a quote from Denis Diderot about the inconvenience of ethics and the first comment called me Denis.
IBOFightback and I found it pretty funny since Denis Diderot died over 200 years ago.
MonaVie Statement On Imagenetix Lawsuit
http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/mlm_amway_quixtar_mona_vie_monavie_lawsuit.html
I really wish people that ran these silly little blogs would actually also take responsibility for keeping the information up-to-date. Imagenetix lawsuit is now over, end of story.
JJ
Over? Not so. The lying is not over. No matter what happened(s) with the lawsuit, it does not negate the fact that Dallin Larsen lied about the product, specifically about what it did or did not contain. He is a liar. Plain and simple.
Never heard of Celedrin. I have been part of Monavie for a year now and have been to many large tastings in Southern California and not one person (Sponsor or Not) has uttered that word once. I even went to one where Brig Hart spoke and it was never once mentioned. All I hear is people's personal testimonies and Sponsors saying that Monavie does not prevent or cure any diseases. I personally have a testimony and I love what Monavie has done for my family and I. If you don't like it….walk away. Why bitch about something that makes many people very happy. It has made my very sick Mother's life much more painless. If you don't think so….than just leave us who like Monavie alone and find something else to talk about. It's a great product and you can't argue about that…….
PERSONALLY I don’t involve myself with Net Work Marketing Pyramid scams. The main reason being is the quality or demand for a product is nonexistent. The product could be a bag of dog poop and so long as the chain buys down, the top makes income. In a nut shell net work marketing doesn’t sell products, it sells dreams. And people that are in need of a positive dream in life buy in. But I'm sorry because the truth is, other than the scams owners, nothing good can come of Net Work marketing. Stop wasting your energy, money and time and GO TO SCHOOL.
Regardless this Mona Vie product has surrounded me for reasons beyond comprehension. My best friend is so overly sold on the fact he's going to receive a 1000% ROI that I fear if I tell him otherwise it could damage our long lasting friendship because he will think I'm trying to diminish "his dream". So in order to be a good friend I have to let him get screwed out of the money he needs to feed his children.
Then to my dismay, my mother’s next door neighbor sold my mom a case. I couldn’t let my mother and father be taken. I went to Wal-Mart and purchased the 6 products on the store shelves that contain "the magic" Acai berry. V8, Vitamin Water, Sobe, Tropicana all offer products. My mother was unaware of this because that information was omitted during the neighbor’s sales pitch. Then the Oprah claim surfaced. "Oprah promotes Mona Vie and the Acai berry" my mom was told. Why Oprah gives credibility to any product is beyond me. Regardless today on Oprah's website she's announced NO AFFILIATION WITH MONA VEI and that a law suits for mis-representation are in process. Here’s the LINK so you "Believers" can see. Copy/Paste: http://www.oprah.com/article/health/nutrition/20090105_orig_acai
Then the "It’s from the Amazon" reason came to fruition (no pun). So what? I'm a Pharmacist and while I accredit the Amazon rain forest has many natural resources that can create drugs, medicines and vitamins, so does Yellowstone forest here in the USA. Don’t let ones curiosity for mysteries of the Amazon is reason enough to believe. So my mom pulled out and will save her retirement money for something else. In closing the Acai berry is no magical fruit. It’s been known about for 100 years. Because availability has amassed doesn’t mean it has special healing properties any more so than vitamin C does. On average a human body can only consume 2000-4000mg's of certain vitamin properties per day. Anything more is flushed out the urine system and never absorbed. Sorry if I ruined anyones dreams of wealth and glamor out there. But your better off investing your money into a IRA or IRA ROTH that will actually produce compounded equity.
I love the product and the people.
When you think of health-based companies like MonaVie and Zrii that have raced to $1B based largely on excitement and hype selling vs. real science, it seems they rarely last. People always realize in the end they are paying $30 for juice with a vague product label.
I’d rather pay $100 dollars on a natural fruit product to cure my illnesses, than spend $1000s of dollars on pharmacuetical drugs and chemicals, that cause unbalanced reactions in the body. The FDA approves cancer causing ingredients to be used in foods / drugs. Doctors and Scientists promote “medicines” and drugs without taking into account the full balance of the body. Don’t get down on a company selling fruit Juices, when you have big name grocercy stores and pharmacies playing this game every where else!