I have a lot of respect for a person that admits he/she was wrong and then asks for forgiveness from those he/she has hurt.
The article at AmQuix.info does not mention Joe Land’s name because of Scott Larsen’s prior agreement.
I have met Joe Land on a number of occasions and I have a great deal of admiration for his business ethics and willingness to serve and help other people.
The apology offers some interesting insight into what people think about the Quixtar business once the circumstances and perspective changes. I contend that in most cases, the Quixtar Diamonds are as "in the dark" and manipulated as the 1,000 PV pins.
Update: I spent some time with Joe Land this weekend and I continue to be impressed. I would highly recommend him as a business partner in this industry.
My upline used to say that Quixtar is "approved" by the FTC and the BBB.
These things are what we were taught to say.
"We partnered with Microsoft"
…and the list goes on.
I suspect that Joe Land was as decieved about Amway/Quixtar as many of us.
I've never met the man, but if I recall correctly wasn't he caught on tape claiming Quixtar had been "set up by Microsoft" and that "if you help 3 people make $2000 a month" you'll conservatively make $150,000/yr?
Sorry, but that doesn't rate him highly in the "ethics" column in my book. Hopefully he has learned from his past errors.
The soundbites have been gone for a long time so I would question your recall, but there is little doubt that the general idea within Amway at the time was to imply that MSFT was partnering with Amway on the Quixtar project.
It is what I was taught and I suspect it was what Joe Land was taught.
Many organizations still teach this type of thing…
Quixtar did partner with Microsoft – even Microsoft said so.
But that's different from saying or implying it's a Microsoft initiative, which it certainly sounded like Land was saying in the soundbites Larsen had. Land was a Diamond, you can't claim ignorance of that.
Nope, I actually listened to them before I posted the second time. They're still up on QuixtarBlog.
Anyone teaching to give the impression this was Microsoft project was, IMO, being dishonest. Were MS and Quixtar partnering on it? Yes, but to imply it was an MS initiated project is just plain wrong.
IBOFightback said:
"Anyone teaching to give the impression this was Microsoft project was, IMO, being dishonest."
You just called 99.99% of Quixtar Leaders at the time of the recording dishonest.
That type of dialogue was implied at every opportunity.