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A Quixtar System or Team of Imfamy?

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A Quixtar Motivational System promotes a business building technique called stacking. Stacking refers to the practice of placing people down one leg. In other words if I sponsor "Joe", then everyone else I sponsor goes under Joe and so on. (If you have any questions regarding the terminology used throughout this post, feel free to e-mail me using the link on the left side of the blog and I will do my best to explain it in English.)

Stacking is not always a bad thing in Network Marketing. It depends greatly on your compensation plan. Interesting enough "stacking" makes little sense in Quixtar if you are concerned with "Quixtar Money". Stacking makes perfect sense in Quixtar if you would like to make money from books, tapes, and functions with no concern to the profitability of your downline.

In essence, Quixtar pays you to create volume, but when someone in your downline matches your volume level, you don’t make any money.

Example (if you do not have experience with Quixtar/Amway, this may sound like another language…feel free to ask any questions, I will be happy to clarify): Joe’s volume is 1200PV, he does 200PV personally and according to the teaching of "A Quixtar System", the other 1000PV goes down one leg. Assuming everyone does 200PV in the leg you will have roughly 6 people in depth. From the outside this looks like a fast growing group…lots of excitement…2 couples go across the stage as 1000PV Winners! In fact, every time a new person gets placed in that leg and does 200PV, you will have another 1000PV winner to Parade across the stage.

Sounds great, lots of excitement and growth…but let’s look at the profit!!!

1200 PV = 2400 BV x 12% Level comes to: $288 (HEY NOT BAD)

but…

Joe has all of his group down one leg so part of his bonus is going to be paid downline as follows:

1000PV = 2000BV x 12% Level comes to: $240

Now let’s go back to Joe for a second…Joe gets to keep the difference between $288 and $240 or $48 – tapes, books, functions, voice mail, website and presto probably a $200 or more net loss per month.

But hey, he is only 1000PV in A Quixtar System and he is excited…he will surely make money at 2500PV…..WRONG! At 2500 he makes $60 Gross. But he is following the A Quixtar System…how about 4000PV…$72 Gross.

Imagine a "Pin Winners" parade with 20 new pins all from one leg with 1000’s, 2500’s, and 4000’s galore…yet no one making more than $72 Gross…a few might make slightly more or less depending on where the volume falls in a given month, but you get the picture.

In my opinion the A Quixtar System is set up so that excitement is created and "new pins" are created, making it more difficult to quit. Think about it…you are a new 1000 Pin…getting your pats on the back…being paraded across stage…the reality you just grossed $48 and probably spent $250 on the system.

If a diamond in A Quixtar System is paid on the number of tapes they move, the number of people attending functions, and number of folks that buy books, voice mail and website access…do they care if those numbers come from width or depth?

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  1. I will have to agree with what you have there about depth. Funny thing is they also teach assuming just by depth you reach silver 7500 pv 25 % and you have a 2500 pin second leg is that 15%
    your bracketing on that leg 10% if my math is correct thats 25% on your personal volume and 10% on your 2500 pv lets say 5000bv which is an understatement that is $500 just on that leg plus that 25 % on your personal as well as 4 % bonus level on that first leg. Lets tell all the facts no partial truths please. Should I go on.

  2. How many people actually have a second leg at 2500?

    I have spoken to several silvers in TOD and most do not have much of a second leg. In fact I find most making $50-70 before expenses of $200-300.

  3. mlmblog,

    You're right, very few start a second leg. In my former team, everyone had exausted possible friends and family members for the tap root (first leg), that they have very few left to start their second leg with. Also, I think you made a mistake with the bonuses. In your first leg, unless you bracket above the team below you, and have sold 70% of your purchases to non participating members and clients, you only make the percentage off your own personal BV. So, going back to your example, if you did 200 PV, that would be about 350 personal BV. If your group put you at the 12% level you would get 12% of your own BV which would be .12 X 350 = 42.00, and by the time you pay for books and tapes, exhorbant prices for products, pay for conferences, gas, TOD fees, you are way in the hole.

    Bob

  4. Now, let us examine this:

    Most SILVERS do not have a second leg. Why is this? Well, what is the requirement for silver? 7500 PV, of course. What about Platinum? 7500 PV. Wait, what is the difference (beyond 6 months of time)? One has 7500 PV in one leg, the other has 7500 PV, but has 2 legs, one at least at 2500 PV. Now, notice anything? Such as- the fact they only have 1 leg is probably the REASON they are at silver level?

    Notice, too- your numbers are wrong. Let us reexamine the width vs. depth argument.

    Now, fundamentally, you will always face depth issues on any given leg. If you have two legs, then you are better off than one. Let us now examine those under you. You have 6 people. Instead of 6, you get 3 legs of 2. This maximizes your personal profit. Each person under you, however, has 1 person under them, and is making next to nothing, with no real incentive to stay. They then all quit. You have nothing.

    Instead, you build depth- you get 12 people under you, and choose the path that minimizes personal wealth for the moment. They all have large teams, and are making enough money to keep them happy, assuming they understand what is going on. They remain, and get an additional 12 people each. Now, you have 144 people. You can start a second leg. Wealth begins. It is not about the short term. It is about the long term. Someone who is there for a month is useless to you in terms of the generation of wealth.

    I also know that your numbers are just plain wrong. I don't know where or why, and will have to get back to you, but for now, I know simply that they are wrong, as all those who I know, at the lower levels make substantially more than that amount. Team 10s are making over $100 per month, and that is not some fluke of volume.

    The issue with your overinflation of costs has already been addressed. It is $100 per month. And in terms of driving, and gas? The government pays you $.46 every mile you drive for the ToD, didn't you know that? You GET money by driving, unless you have a very high maintenance car.

    Bob Jones, you display a remarkable lack of understanding of how the ToD works for someone who claims to have come from it. If everyone exhausted friends and family for the tap root, why then were the friends and family using Their contacts to further expand the tap root? You should not have had Everyone on the tap root, as the whole point of building depth is to have people join, have them have others join, have them have others join, and so on, working at the bottom, not simply putting your own people on the bottom every time. Then, you only need 1 person to start a second leg, and you use their contacts to start expanding it, and their contacts contacts, and so on and so forth, building depth. If you ran out of people, your uplines or downlines have contacts as well, and there is always cold contacting, etc. In essence, if you didn't take advantage of Tax benefits, didn't use the power of leverage, didn't properly build depth, didn't do ANYTHING as you should have, how can you possibly complain things did not work out for you? And don't complain there was no one to teach you how to do it right, why do you think the books, tapes, meetings, etc are there? Did you just spend your money, then get nothing out of them? If so, you should have asked for your money back, that option is always there, if you didn't benefit from it.

    Don't judge the ToD by the performance of your own team, if as it sounds like, you didn't do anything according to the ToD's instruction. Judge the ToD by those who actually DO what they're supposed to, I think you'll find a little more success.

    (Again, I point to the fact that the majority of those who follow minimum requirements for 12 months qualify for PLATINUM, where they are making at least $2000 a month. To say that this more than covers expenses is to make a vast understatement. Rewards are there to those who DO THE WORK, not to those who do nothing. If they do not have a second leg at 2500, and never get one, then that is entirely their fault. Depth works not on instant gratification, but in allowing the more substantial and permanent building of a team. Yes, they get excited about growth, and are encouraged to do things themselves, to do the work, and to get the rewards. They make more money, and you make more money. It is a concept built not to maximize money instantly, but to maximize belief, which leads to far more money long term.)

  5. I can say you are half right,but what you are missing is the rest of the story.
    when a IBO gets memebers and clients they are adding to there own pv/bv and stay ahead of thier down line,in thier percent bracket,if they no what thier doing,but thats the hard stage.
    when a IBO gets to a certain point in thier training they then get to start thier own legs.
    After each of his legs get too the point where others below him start thier legs,the first IBO mention gets 4% of that downlines bv every month.
    If you get the picture,this means you could make just one leg,and be getting income from thier legs and and the legs created under them and on and on and on.How can you not have a clue as too the results this has for any one in TOD.Sure the guys at the top make monry of tapes,but this is to make you see the bigger pictur,this is not a get rich scheme.it takes time and work to get therebut when you do its worth it.and also at certain levels you are given bonus'sby Quixtar and team of destiny

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