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When I was first involved with Amway, we had a communication voicemail system called "Amvox". Amvox was a product provided by Amway and was not part of the 8 CORE steps that were required in order to succeed in Amway, according to the Britt and World Wide Group System. Amvox was not vital but was suggested.
Then one day, BWW and WWDB decided it was a good idea to come out with "their own" voicemail system called Communikate. Communikate was a definite upgrade from Amvox, but for the most part is still served the same purpose. Typically the upline used the voicemail system to send out a message telling everyone how important the next meeting is and how important the major function is and how great the standing order tape is.
Once Communikate was rolled out, voicemail became the 9th CORE step!
I was told specifically by a founders triple diamond in WWDB that the diamonds "make a lot of money on Communikate".
All of a sudden when the voicemail system is lining the pockets of the diamonds, it becomes vital to your success. Interesting.
You know nothing about the Communikate system. Most uplines use it as a way to get the newest information out to their downline. And as for the comments about the diamonds pockets being lined, platinums are who make the most money from communikate. It puts money into the hnds of the people who are actually building the business for those who are prospering. Get your information right before you post it on some silly website to let the people I work hard at building a business with get the wrong information.
John,
1. How do you know that Platinums make the most money on Kate? Do you have proof of this in writing?
2. Why should any upline make a lot of money on a tool that is supposedly meant to help build your business?
3. Do you have any emperical evidence that shows Communikate even helps you turn a profit in Quixtar?
Ty,
Couple of questions, but not sure if they should be directed at you.
1. Who wrote the original post? And specifically can that person elaborate in more detail on the following:
"I was told specifically by a founders triple diamond in WWDB that the diamonds "make a lot of money on Communikate".
All of a sudden when the voicemail system is lining the pockets of the diamonds, it becomes vital to your success. Interesting."
My main interest is who and under what context did the "makes a lot of money…" quote come from. I find it interesting that it is only a partial sentence from what appears a much longer and more broad conversation. I ask the same three questions (edited for relevancy) from the person who posted the original post that you asked (and from you):
1. How do you know that DIAMONDS make the most money on Kate? Do you have proof of this in writing?
2. Why should NOT any upline make a lot of money on a tool that is supposedly meant to help build your business if they laid the $$ investment to develop the system (experience tells me this would be in the $150k or more, range)? If the developers are helping your profit increase AND theirs, it sounds like a good win-win situation.
3. Do you have any emperical evidence that shows Communikate DOES NOT HELP you turn a profit in Quixtar? Personally, I found that it is pretty hard to run any business without a good communication system.
I ask this as the original post makes some bold statements and assumptions without any factual information, either.
In the same manner, I run 3 varying business (not MLMs) and searched far and wide for a practical PBX system. CommuniKate (which is available outside of Quixtar, btw) is a very reasonably priced system. You get an aweful lot for $20-40 ish. per month. I found you can spend hundreds per month for the same basic idea (and $1000's ++ if you purchase your own equipment). Just search Google for PBX Systems and you will see what I mean.
For the record, I am using VirtualPBX right now for those 3 businesses, but CommuniKate was my second choice. Deciding factor was the extension and transfer feature.
Just curious of your opinion.
I wrote the original post.
Triple Diamond Brad Duncan told me specifically about the Kate money in a meeting at Diamond Samir Attalah's house.
We had a 3 hour meeting about all of the money we could make in the business (millions) and not once did Brad mention money from Quixtar.
I explain more about the meeting here:
http://mlmblog.com/2003/11/meeting_mr_trip.html
As for your questions, regarding Kate…I have a Kate now, through Univera LifeSciences, only it is called Emissary and it ranges from $8 to $30 instead of $20 to $40. Same exact program.
The diamonds did not lay out a penny to develop Kate, I actually spoke to the people at Webley Systems, who own Kate to confirm that.
I never said that Kate wasn't effective, I question whether is it vital and whether the choice to make it vital was based on the potential money to be made, rather than the benefit the sytem provided the individual IBO.
Don't you guys have anything better to do? You embarrass me. What a bunch of quitters! Here, try this…"Wah, I hate whining! I gave up and now I'm blaming someone else! Wah!" Sounds stupid huh! Maybe you should listen to yourself! Every choice you made in your business was yours alone. You could have got the job done without Kate and so on and spent only the $50 for a business license. You could have taken advantage of the tax benefits. You could have been a go-getter!! You could have got rid of all your excuses and secured your financial future for your family. You could have made an impact on hundreds of lives! You could have taken responsibility and taken the initiative. I'm sick of this site! See ya!
So you want me to set aside my business sense and come back to a company (Quixtar) with the worst reputation in the industry?
Worst reputation? How ignorant.
Julian,
Ignorant huh? Can you name a Network Marketing company that is still in business with a worse reputation than Amway/Quixtar?
You answered your question buddy. The very reason that Amway and Quixtar and all other business are still in business because there is something there that you can’t see. You can fool some people for some time…or many people for some time….but you can’t fool everybody all the time! Amway has been in business for more than 50 years! You can’t fool people for FIFTY years man!!!
Do yourself a favor….Amway works on the Private Franchising concept. Try opening up a Franchise of McDonalds or KFC or whatever. Take a look at what terms and conditions you need to follow if you want to have their franchise year after year. And who is your customer base for McDonalds…the people who leave within a 5-10 km radius of your outlet. Here is a business opportunity that-
– provides you the same franchise opportunity with a really small start-up cost;
– allows you to invest time and money into the business at the pace you want to;
– that gives you the tools, education and association possibilities that can help you grow your business (haven’t you ever visited any international exhibitions where you meet like minded people in order to grow your businesses…so what is wrong with the functions and seminars hosted by BWW and Quixtar?)
and so many more advantages that traditional business won’t give you (residual income, retire early…etc etc. Give it another thought buddy….as much time you are taking in thinking about the negatives..think about it’s positives and you’ll see the answers that have evaded you so far!!!
I totally agree with mits, Here in india from a truck driver to an IAS officer to cheif minister every one is doing amway business. And the power of association is great.
Education is the best part.
Bww has a great education sys.Anyone can do this business.
BWW and Amway are a joke. The system doesn’t do a thing except drain the pockets of downline IBOs.
Ok am just going to say that all the person who are my upline mentor was once someone elses downline so i would choose this 10 times over
All sorts of dumb.
Don’t know how MLMs can legally validate the operations in a court of law?
Which company is the legal benchmark for Mom and network marketing companies?
Do you know how the FTC validates mlm and network marketing companies?