Here is a quote from Quixtar/WWDB Diamond Samir Attalah:
My wife and I have been involved in the Quixtar business for over 17 years, we have been very successful due to much hard work. This is our sole source of income and we live very comfortably. We have about 500 people in our business.
Samir was my upline in Amway and Quixtar.
500 people in 17 years of 5-7 nights a week of work?
That’s less than 30 people a year.
Samir lives in a multi-million dollar home so he seems to be doing OK, but I wonder how well the people that have been with Samir for 17 years are doing.
More on Samir Attalah:
Theft Conviction
Lawsuit With Downline over investment scheme.
Update: Samir appears to have hired some kind of blog spam specialist to put up multiple gibberish blogs using his name in hopes of hiding this information. In one of the posts, the author says that Samir tried to help and mentor me but I failed and quit Amway/WWDB because of my marriage.
Here’s the truth:
I just celebrated my 20th wedding anniversary with my bride. What Samir and his little spam author won’t tell you is that after leaving his mentorship, I built a very large Network Marketing business (larger than Samir). In the last 9 months, I helped over 40 people earn BMW’s with our company and will break more than a dozen diamonds (we call them VP’s) in the next 12 months while Samir has never broken a single Diamond or Emerald in Amway/WWDB. Not trying to brag here, just stating a fact.
Maybe you really DO have some critical thinking skills after all!
If I remember my 6-4-2 math correctly, in order to qualify as a Diamond, you have to have 6 Directs. A Direct leg has 79 people in it. 6 Direct legs times 79 people in each leg equals 474 people. If Samir has 500 people in his group, does this mean his entire group services a whopping 26 customers?
IBOFB,
What type of volume does an "active ibo" produce?
Paulbo – that's a model to show how the business works. Are you seriously suggesting that's how a diamond business looks?
Ty – he's almost certainly reporting active IBOs.
If Samir is most likely reporting active IBOs, then my SA-4400 math is still good, except the 26 leftover people are non-Direct IBOs dispersed throughout his organization. In any regard, 500 active IBOs makes for a very small Diamondship, no matter how you arrange the pyramid. 500 active IBOs each doing 100PV per month equals 50,000PV group volume. 6 Direct legs doing 7500PV equals 45,000PV, leaving him with 5,000PV side volume.
Either he is a very small Diamond, or the size of his group was incorrectly stated.
Depends on the market and the system. Network TwentyOne personal volume goals for active IBOs vary from 50PV to 300PV depending on the market. You then have the volume of inactive IBOs to consider – the wholesale shoppers.
For North America the average PV per active IBO, including the volume of "inactive" IBOs they have introduced, would I imagine be significantly more than 100PV.
Interesting Tango around my question.
I would "imagine" that the average "active" IBO does less than 100PV.
Samir Attalah is not trustworthy no matter what he says. He stole suits from Nordstrom Rack, stole money from his downline, stole business legs from his downline, is constantly involved in lawsuits and was in significant debt while telling everyone he was debt free. If he said he has 500 people in his group, then it's probably closer to 300.
http://www.freefilehosting.org/public/34873/Samir%20Attalah%20-%20Thief.pdf
I was very interested to see the post that describes Samir Attalah stealing suits from Nordstrom. I have recently had a very unpleasent experience with this guy.It involves Theft and deceit and I am currently questioning my relationship with this man. Im very confused and dont want to take myself and my family down the wrong path with him if he is truly this way. I would like to speak person to person to anybody out there who can share their own personal experience and help me to figure this out.The opportunity actually I beleive in,but am having a hard time with him. Please email me @ olpdkm@comcast.net and let me know how I can reach you so we can talk.
I really have to know how anyone can make a statement so bold as 'he stole from Nordstrom'. Not saying that he didn't, I wasn't there… but that is a very harsh accusation.
As far as the size of his business:
If he's counting active IBOs (which would make sense to me), he's leaving out all of his clients (as I said in another post, the primary source of income) and all of his prosumers (which can add up to a whole lot of PV/BV).
As far as his 'stealing legs from his downline', that's not even possible. Not even a diamond has the power to transfer sponsorship of an IBO from one person to another. The new IBO would have to give up his business to sign on with Samir directly, or the new IBO's direct sponsor would have to quit Quixtar which automatically ties the new IBO in with the next person upline. If the direct sponsor does not quit or 'drop out', but it seems that someone upline is taking over, than it is because the direct sponsor is not working hard enough themselves. I can assure you, however, that the new IBO's direct sponsor is still very much 'in the loop' (or at least as much as they want to be).
If you have real news or proof of this alleged thievery, please e-mail me…
adam.deboer@navy.mil
Samir Attalah is a horrible man. He is having his house remodeled right now, and of course, is deciding NOT to pay his bill after the work has been done. He's claiming to have paid more up front than he really did, and he asked for a copy of the bills our company bought supplies from .. so out of COURTESY we did, and now he's trying to say that the pricing isn't right. He also wants more work done when he hasn't even paid for the work that has been completed. We feel HORRIBLE for the other companies having to deal with him because he probably won't pay them either. And if you want to talk about Nordstrom's suits, please let me know because he gave one to our employee …. it's hanging in his closet because he wasn't sure what to make of the gift.
What company are you with? I really want to know more, because I have done work as a contractor for this man for two years and suddenly he is suing us! His facts are all wrong and, in some cases, untruthful. I need help in defending myself, so any information you have is valuable. Please send info to SamirSues@gmail.com – If anybody has direct experience with this man trying to sue them, please tell us about it!
I did a little research on Samir Attalah and I read nothing but great stuff. I go right to the source not from questionable bloggers. I bet some of these bloggers are the same people trying to ruin Samir’s reputation. All I can say is get a life.
So in your “research” did you see that he has been involved in multiple lawsuits and is a convicted felon?
Did you see that he has never had anyone in his business even get to the Emerald level?
Do I know Samir? Yeah, he was my sponsor in Amway. 18 months after leaving Amway and Samir’s “mentorship” I was earning six figures in Network Marketing.
Ty, my brother. Thanks for getting back promptly. I’m sure you are great at what you do. I am sure you make great $$$ after leaving Amway but my question to you is, why do you hate the man so much? I mean you are making way more money in another network marketing anyways. I am sure that anyone can write about anybody and try to ruin his/her reputation. I hope that you know what you are doing b/c Iam a believer and I know that we all gonna be judge on what we do in this life. You should be glad that you’re not involve in Samir’s buisiness and move on with your life. I tried multiple network marketing and it’s not for me. Can I honestly say that I gave it all my best–yes & no. But I know that it’s not for everyone. Would you want someone writing negative stuff about you, too? I know you are web savy, and I am too, but we’re not perfect. The past is the past, man. What dould Jesus do? I pray that you do the right thing.
I’m not saying that I am anything like Jesus, I am a sinner who has been saved because of his sacrifice, but Jesus did turn over the tables in the synagogue did he not?
Has your research included a basic search on Washington’s Courts website? http://dw.courts.wa.govYOU WILL FIND AT LEAST 58 LAWSUITS WITH SAMIR ATTALAH THE PLAINTIFF IN MOST. Beware when dealing with this guy.
I thought I read somewhere that he also had an affair with a downline and that leg completely fell apart afterwards. Sorry, don’t quite remember where I read the article.
You guys are amazing…lol. Ty, why hide my first comment? Jesus, turned over the table because the people was doing business in a place of worship. Those people believe in God but yet they were also naysayers. (Sound familiar). Let me ask you guys this — what’s te difference about what Samir is doing (according to you guys) & what you guys are writing about him? You guys better re-define what sin is, and if a person is saved by grace but recommit sins, what does that say? I checked out the court docs and it doesn’t explained the fact that Nordstrom apologized to Samir and cut him a check as an apology (as my source told me). How many lives have you guys touched?
James, Samir was CONVICTED of theft, why in the world would Nordstrom issue an apology and a check after the guy was convicted of stealing suits from a Nordstrom store?
There’s lots more. Believe me, I am being kind here.
P.S. I didn’t hide your first comment, it was voted down by readers.
Hey… I was in WWDB for 10 years. I have no ill will with Ron Puryear, Brad Duncan… my former upline. I departed after an amicable divorce. I’m fairly liberal in thought, so you understand the conflict there.
There were only 3 diamonds that I had huge issues with. Bill Britt, Greg Duncan and Samir Attalah. Greg was actually okay, just wasn’t willing to accept him as a God and he probably wouldn’t like that very much. ha ha
The other two… um… no. I don’t care if the criminal allegations are true or not. These two men hurt my brain. Bill Britt disgusts me to the depth of my soul. THAT… has nothing to do with the Amway Corporation and the products and any other person in this business. It is just the odds of society. Rotten and foul and I cried and went to the bathroom during both of their speeches.
Samir Attalah fired the original general contractor and subs because he said they were making too much. He signed a contract with my company to install a boiler at the house. He did not follow the contractual agreements we agreed upon by changing things after the contract signing and tried to get me to install a used, problem boiler. He needed to provide a new boiler as per the agreement but did not. He did not meet the job deposit amount to start or pay me for my actual time on the job. I tried to work things out with him but it kept getting worse and he quit on the deal. I told him if he provided the new boiler as per the agreement we could move forward but he did not. New boiler $2,500 says he makes $500K/yr. He said he wanted his money back after he wasted my time for 45 days and not paying me for my time. In any business it’s fair to be compensated for your time if you acted in good faith and handled the situation appropriately which I did. His actions of not getting a new boiler, not fulfilling the job start deposit, not paying me for my time, etc ruined the deal and then he quit. He has been posting false personal/business information on Craigslist about the situation since February 2015. For someone that says he makes $500K/yr he is apparently a miserable person and businessman. Is it really that hard? It doesn’t seem to be for every other customer I have had for 25 years. This guy is a serious problem. Stay away from him.