This was posted at the Alticor Media Blog a few minutes ago. If you lack time, I’ll give you the short version.
The MLM Blog Summary: Hey Orrin, don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.
The Alticor Media Blog Post:
We terminated Orrin Woodward yesterday, along with several other
leaders of his field organization, named Team. We’ll post our formal
statement when it’s ready. Informally, here’s the story:We terminated Orrin Woodward for philosophical reasons. We did it for legal reasons.
But the main reason we did it is because the way Orrin Woodward ran
his organization was a disgrace to every person who’s ever tried to
build a Quixtar or Amway business the right way.We have fought to clean up the reputation of our company for years.
We know that one of the biggest challenges our reputation faces is
misrepresentation of the Quixtar and Amway businesses to others.And over the last several months, it became clear to us that Orrin
Woodward was a poster child for a long list of bad business practices
that our critics hate about our company. The other leaders we
terminated – including Chris Brady, Billy Florence, Don Wilson, Randy
Haugen, Tim Marks and Chuck Goetschel – also showed they were unwilling
to reform.Not telling people they were signing up with Quixtar? Woodward would
hide that fact from new Independent Business Owners as long as he could.Making people think it was easy money? Same deal.
Telling people that Quixtar was merely a “supplier,” and not the company they were signing a contract with? Yup.
We’d told Woodward we had problems with the way he ran his business
for years, and we worked methodically to bring those problems to
resolution. We got ignored, we got lied to, and, boy, we got the
runaround.So in the end, yesterday, we tried to give him one last chance to reform.
He didn’t even want to hear his options. So we terminated him. And
in return, he handed us a trumped-up, trash-talking lawsuit on his way
out the door. In response, we have a temporary restraining order issued
by a court that prevents him from looting the business as he seeks to
take his act to a new company.So he’s gone, and so are others. We are doing our best to repair the
relationships Orrin Woodward damaged and protect the businesses of the
people in his organization that Orrin Woodward betrayed. And we will
continue building our business with thousands of people who know how to
build it the right way.We would say we were sorry to see Orrin Woodward go. But only if that were true.
hello??
The way it looks to me is Quixtar when it comes down to it is crying in mommies breast milk because Orrin wouldn't let them pervert a beautiful organization called TEAM.
SOMEbody finally got some guts at the corp.
Thank goodness the corp did something about Woodward and his leadership. I'm SO tired of defending this awesome business because of the TEAM's inappropriate practices. Stacking is wrong and unprofitable… focusing on tool revenue instead of building business volume is WRONG… Woodward's bogus lawsuit is a joke and suggests his organization has built their whole business on lies… I feel sorry for IBOs on the TEAM and wish them luck.
Ray just wondering… What does your organization total in sales a year?
Yea… I guess focusing on tools works.
You want to know the truth! Since I quit using tools,books,tapes and functions in the business I have been able to grow my store volume to over $640000.00 a year more! I don't hear all that crap and waste my time and money on that stuff. I don't get all negative about having a job. I don't try to leave work to go build my uplines business. Sure my boss is gonna make more but so am I. You see thats the difference. Go and jump in your uplines new mlm and drink the kool-aid and you will be happier !
I would like to shed some insight to all. Think about this really well. first off the only reason i joined the team and or quixtar for that matter was because of team approach (stacking)! It allows someone who doesn't want to build a bussiness right away to see how much support you can get if you want. If I did nothing at all but buy my products from "myself" I would eventually get up to %25 percent off of what I buy. Which would make the price of those things a tiny little bit cheaper than i could get at the corner store. Without Team approach I would be left to buy overpriced stuff and what is the point of that? The reason Quixtar doesn't like the way we build this business is because that takes money from the van andel and de vos families deep deep pockets. What quixtar doesn't understand is that the team would have and could have made them the biggest corp. in the world, If they hadn't been so greedy!
To Ray,
You're not shedding light. You are showing how to build an illegal pyramid.
You make the stupid statement, "The reason Quixtar doesn't like the way we build this business is because that takes money from the van andel and de vos families deep deep pockets."
Are you nuts? Can't you do simple math?
Rich DeVoss and Jay VanAndel are responsible for bringing in every distributor in all 80 + countries. They started out with a kit, no up-line help, a big bunch of work, and a hell of a lot of smarts plus decentcy.
You show how to build an illegal pyramid, they draw up the rules of conduct to save fools like you from illegal practices.
Now do the math. Sales to 10 retail clients at $40 each is $400. Now in case your little mind can't figure that out, that's instant dollars in your hand. And $40 is baby play, IF YOU KNOW YOUR PRODUCTS AND WHY THEY ARE LESS EXPENSIEVE THAN BRAND X.
Take the math a step further. The Yager organization probably has a million people. If each of the million did $400 that equals $400 million in sales added to thier six something billion.
You're inlighting the Federal TRade Commission that you, Yager, and Team are building illegal businesses and in doing it the illegal way cheating yourselves out of money you may need when the FTC gets ahold of you.
Your best bet is to listen to the DeVoss, and VanAndel families. They don't want to loose something as great as what has been built. They want a flawless reputatation so people want to hurry to get in or to buy. The way to do that is have all of the legalities lined up.
Your group has been reprimanded yea many times and has refused to abide by the laws.
Again, I'm dancing with joy that "Team" was terminated.
You just "Enlightened" the Quixtar that you and your cohorts are building an illegal business. Will you be terminated, or will The FTC put your buns behind bars.
Listen to the DeVoss And VanAndels, they have the legalities in order to protect every distributor and the entire corporation.
Do you realize that if you go into a home and do a demo with bleach that falls and ruins the carpet, that the DeVoss And VanAndel families have you insured so you won't have to pull money for the damages out of your pocket. Now how much do you pay for that insurance? 000 Not a penny but you sure do bad mouth them every chance you get.
You don't sound like a good person to be around.
Jane
jame N.
hey guess what amway got shut down in england
why because theY CHARGE TO MUCH!!
YOU TARD!!!
hey jackass!! after all your ignoracne is plastered on the internet the court found orrin innocent and oh guess what
there was never anything filed and they were never repremended BY YOUR SCAMWAY!!
so get your head out of your uplines food processor and get a life?
3% retail sales
self consuption
sounds like a pyramid to me.
WHAT A JOKE
HERE IS YOUR ASS BACK!!!!
ZERO COOL
Thank goodness the corp did something about Woodward and his leadership. I'm SO tired of defending this awesome business because of the TEAM's inappropriate practices.
YOU ARE A EXCUSE ARTIST!!! NO ONE WANT TO GET YOU YOUR LITTLE 6-4-2 THING IT HAD A BAD REPUTATION WAY BEFORE TEAM AND IT WILL CONTINUE AFTER TEAM I.E. ENGLAND!
Stacking is wrong and unprofitable… focusing on tool revenue instead of building business volume is WRONG…
WHO TOLD YOU THAT LIE??? SOUNDS LIKE A TWIST OF THE FACTS
WHEN A DIAMOND GOT AN APP AND PUT IT IN YOUR DOWNLINE WHATS THE DIFFERENCE???
THERE ISNT Q/A JUST REFUSES TO ACCEPT THEY ARE NOT GROWING.
Woodward's bogus lawsuit is a joke and suggests his organization has built their whole business on lies… I feel sorry for IBOs on the TEAM and wish them luck.
YOUR THE ONE WHO NEEDS LUCK (LABOR UNDER CORRECT KNOWLEDGE)
THAT COMPANY IS A SCAM AND ITS DAY IS COMING
I WILL BE THERE TO SEE IT!!!
Where will orrin but his product from now?
Message From down Under
Amway seem to think that they can do what they want and to whom they want. So much of the bonus money that should be paid to IBO's doesn't and just gets kept by the company. Also why don't you ask them that when they terminated someone did they send the rest of the group to the upline or did they just insert a dummy position so that Amway could keep the cash generated from that business. (very immoral if you ask me.
On top of this please explain to me how you could possibly charge $30 for a shaving foam when the next most expensive one is only $7-$8.
Unfortunately over the years most IBO's have been brainwashed into believing in Amway due to the potential of a business opportunity offered to them.
Maybe its time to open our eyes.
My view from down under.
I was recently introduced to the TEAM concept and let me say that it makes sense to me. A team working together to help build each others business. Competition is eliminated and teamwork is formed. When I looked at traditional MLM I realized there isn’t any true motivation for the upline to invest in assisting you. If I succeed fine if not they’ll just look for someone else to build another leg. I’m open minded if someone can show me otherwise.
Thanks!