When your company doesn’t have a unique product, your only choice is to build your business on hype, false claims and other mumbo-jumbo.
Regardless of what some may think, people are not stupid. They will eventually find out that a product similar to MonaVie is being sold in Sam’s Club for $17.24 while MonaVie product is being sold for $39.
Introducing Frut A Vie:
Here is the price tag from Sam’s Club (a division of Wal-Mart) – note the comparison to MonaVie on the shelf tag:
Finally, have a look at the back label. I will be posting a comparison of ingredients soon:
Wal-Mart and Costco are not stupid either, gang. Building a business based on a juice that can be copied so easily along with hype filled testimonies that many times cross the legal line into medical claims will catch up MonaVie. The hype only lasts so long.
Update II (Ingredients):
Frut A Vie ingredients:
Proprietary blend of Acai (Freeze Dried Powder & Puree), Grape Juice, Pear Juice, Cherry
Juice, Pomegranate Juice, Goji Juice (Wolfberry), Apple Juice,
Cranberry Juice, Blueberry Juice, Acerola, Grape Skin Extract, Bannana,
& 1140mg of Mangosteen Peel Extract. (incomplete – I am working on getting the rest of the ingredients).
MonaVie Active ingredients:
Proprietary blend of acai (freeze dried powder and puree); Fruit juice
from concentrate (white grape, nashi pear, acerola, aronia, purple
grape, cranberry, passion fruit, apricot, prune, kiwi, blueberry,
wolfberry [goji], pomegranate, and lychee, camu camu); fruit purees
(pear, banana, bilberry);d-glucosamine hydrochloride, esterified fatty
acids, natural flavor, citric acid, sodium benzoate, potassium sorbate.
I also found a review of Frut A Vie on the Sam’s Club site:
fruit avie, 02/04/2008
This is great stuff! The acai fruit is the most healthful berry you can take and if you put a once in your smoothie it tasted great.
Please bring it back!!
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Gender: Female Age: 45-54 Owned product: 1-5 months Uses product: Every day Would you recommend this product to a friend?: Yes |
ORAC Values:
MonaVie has an ORAC score of 1027 per oz.
Frut A Vie has an ORAC score of 3500 per oz.
An Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) score is a test tube analysis that measures the antioxidant levels of food and other chemical substances. If a food has a high ORAC score, then it means the food is high in antioxidants. The antioxidant’s strength is its ability to eliminate oxygen free radicals.
It's a good thing you're not biased, being that you are involved in another MLM. Either way, it's also a good thing very few people read this blog. Good picture though, because it states an ingredient being "water", whereas the first and largest ingredient in MonaVie is acai (patent pending process; freeze-dried). There is ONLY whole fruits in the bottle of MonaVie. Do you deny that difference? If you weren't bias you would post this comment on your blog so ALL those people you have in YOUR business can read it. What everyone ought to know is that you're really just butt-hurt that Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady chose MonaVie over the little company you're part of (including 1300 other companies). You should know one thing though.. people like you don't make it in the TEAM anyway. Most people hate MLM professionals like you. You really shouldn't blame them. You don't really help people succeed. It's all about yourself. You couldn't show us five people that you've currently helped make a multiple six-figure income. You know what would be great.. comparing you and OW's business side by side. How hilarious would that be.
amen brother, i am with you
Ouch that's gotta hurt! It certainly pays to do your due diligence when looking at a company for the long term. Too many "juice" deals without any kind of composition patent is going to kill off many of these companies unless they come up with something unique and protected with a patent.
Andrew
Monavie has a patent on the process of the berry buy the time it get s to the market in other products all the nutrients are gone because of the nutritional value is killed during the pasturization.Thus monavie is the pure product and very healthy for you it may cost more but that because it is pure for you.
Find people who drink this juice from Sam's club and see if they have anything good to say about it. Monavie testimonies will blow you away. If you want to compare the two products nutritionally, start with the fact that the knock off has four times more sugar than Monavie — good one, sugar is good for you. Diabetics get them while they last at sam's club.
But more important than all that… can you get the juice for free from Sam's club? At $17+ dollars a bottle it's a rip off! I get Monavie for free because I shared it with 3 people — take that to the Sam's club management and see if they'll give you the juice for free by bringing in three customers. I think your hype about putting Monavie out of business is pure conjecture pal.
G-Man,
Yes… Let's compare the two products shall we: Label from Ty's post – shows 4 grams of sugar per serving (1oz). Now, let's look at MonaVie: I have a bottle of Active right in front of me… WOW, it's got 4 grams of sugar per 1oz serving! Go figure!!!
Maybe you should check your facts PRIOR to posting a comment that more than just "you" will see. Additionally, sugar "is" good for you! without it you would definately have problems (Symptoms of low blood glucose levels (Hypoglycemia) include feeling anxious or confused, feeling numb in the arms and hands, and shaking or feeling dizzy, cranky, tired, sweaty, hungry, confused, and shaky. Glucose supplies the body's cells with energy, and a low level of glucose seriously affects the brain cells. If the blood sugar levels drop too low, a person can lose consciousness or may experience a seizure.) This is why the labels of these two products show 1-2% listed in the percentage of Daily value. It's an important part of our diet!
Moving on to the "putting MonaVie out of business" comment… Pretty neat how Ty put that pesky little question mark at the end of the entries title! Makes it pretty clear that he was not "stating" that it will happen, but rather was "speculating" that it could. Quite frankly, I think it is painfully apparent that what is being stated here is true… if you have a product that you are trying to "sell" (a very important part of "your" business since you have a "requirement" to "retail" a certain amount of product per month) and "your" price is double that of the competition, then you "will" have problems competing. People are willing to drive nearly accross town to save a mere nickel on a gallon of gas… exactly what makes you think they wouldn't choose the Sam's Club alternative to MonaVie at a nearly 50% savings?
Josh,
So it is OK for Orrin to talk about Amway and compare Amway to MonaVie, but I am not allowed to make a comment about a serious issue that WILL have an affect on all MonaVie associates because I am involved with another company?
Uh, yeah. That makes sense.
And your right, it's a good thing only a few thousand people read what I write every day. The truth can be a messy thing to fend off.
Well, I believe the MonaVie has more fruits in it but I can't see all of the "other" ingredients so I may be wrong. Also, A/Q has survived for 50 years with products being double and triple what people pay at Walmart so MonaVie will most likely be around for a while and they may morph into something else 10-15 years down the road…who knows.
Where is Açai in the ingredients list? Aren't ingredients lists sorted by the amount of that item in the contents? So on my bottle of MonaVie™, the first thing is Açai. The first thing on their ingredients list is … water? So you buy a $18 bottle of water at Sam's Club, or a $39 bottle of Açai from your friend. Who is the bigger fool? BTW, Açai is so far down in ingredients that it didn't even show up in the picture.
It was great to read a post on this site that wasn't 4 years old and full of historically obsolete "information". The MonaVie bubble will burst faster than the Amway wannabees of the 80s & 90s, probably because of the internet. The ability for people to research the countless numbers of "just-like-Amway-only-betters" whose bleached bones litter the path of history should diminish the allure of the latest instant-wealth snake oil miracle cures. Perhaps a business that markets a couple million products and services and has partnered with scores of other reputable companies, AND has survived 50 years of anti-capitalist onslaughts is still the only real viable option. Now if only they wore Hawaiian shirts.
I totally understand the reaction of many esp. since water is listed as the first ingredient. The problem is, most people will not care about the ingredients as much as the ORAC score. This is the biggest blow to MonaVie since it is the main drive of why their product is better. They claim the process is what preserves the berry and produces the highest ORAC score. Sometimes love is blind. You should not love or believe in something so much, no matter how good it is, that you become "blind" to the possibility of red flags. Instead of getting defensive why not stop and think about how this might affect your future and those you lead? If I'm going to put my sweat into building a successful business, and lead others to do the same, I must I must always consider the impact. In my opinion MonaVie is lacking to many important ingredients!
Bella, first, this site has been updated no less than 40 times in the last 2 months and has hundreds of posts in the last year.
But, I'm glad you brought up the term obsolete…that is exactly how you should characterize Amway. It is a 1959 compensation plan in the hybrid world of 2008.
If you held a gun to my head and made me choose between MonaVie and Amway, I'd take MonaVie without hesitation, but the truth of the matter is there are better options than a relic of the 1950's and a juice deal that is being copied by Wal-Mart.
The answer comes in innovation.
"It's not the big that eat the small, it's the fast that eat the slow."
Yah I was in Tahitian Noni and they claimed "super-natural" benefits also??
Just Run
Orac scores can be artificially inflated by adding vit. E to the product. you also have to be sure it is gram per gram comparison. remember moderation , balance and variety.
Mona Vie has a higher Orac score than 1027 per oz. The ORAC Score of the Acai Berry alone is 1027 per gram (no other food is higher). If there is in fact more Acai in Mona Vie then it is not possible for Frut A Vie to have a higher ORAC Score.
It is clear that the copy is being attempted. That seems to be great news. They did not try to copy the other junk out there so at least we have a product worth the flatery. Next it is quite important to note that the ingredients appear to be listed in such a way as to imply the Acai is first on the list but the list repeats the prprietary juice blend statement later in the list on frut a vie.
I'll take Dr Schauss and $55 million in research before I get behind grape juice in a brown bottle. But to be sure and fair I'll gladly go spend $20 bucks and report the findings after a week of drinking it. I doubt anyone raving about frut a vie has ever had more than a shot of Mona Vie.
I'll let you know in three weeks.
Dear Are You Kidding?
Who cares who they list it on the bottle…you are better off drinking a bottle of red wine than MonaVie Juice and I bet that you will have a lot more fun with the wine.
No, I am not kidding. Red Wine and grape juice have a higher ORAC than Acai berry juice according ot PubMed.org
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
The present study applied (1) four tests of antioxidant potency [Trolox equivalent antioxidant capacity (TEAC), total oxygen radical absorbance capacity (ORAC), free radical scavenging capacity by 2,2-diphenyl-1-picrylhydrazyl (DPPH), and ferric reducing antioxidant power (FRAP)]; (2) a test of antioxidant functionality, that is, inhibition of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) oxidation by peroxides and malondialdehyde methods; and (3) evaluation of the total polyphenol content [by gallic acid equivalents (GAEs)] of polyphenol-rich beverages in the marketplace. The beverages included several different brands as follows: apple juice (3), açaí juice (3), black cherry juice (3), blueberry juice (3), cranberry juice (3), Concord grape juice (3), orange juice (3), red wines (3), iced tea beverages (10) [black tea (3), green tea (4), white tea (3)], and a major PJ available in the U.S. market. An overall antioxidant potency composite index was calculated by assigning each test equal weight. PJ had the greatest antioxidant potency composite index among the beverages tested and was at least 20% greater than any of the other beverages tested. Antioxidant potency, ability to inhibit LDL oxidation, and total polyphenol content were consistent in classifying the antioxidant capacity of the polyphenol-rich beverages in the following order: PJ>red wine>Concord grape juice>blueberry juice>black cherry juice, açaí juice, cranberry juice>orange juice, iced tea beverages, apple juice.
OK – for all of you who don't know how to read a label – the active ingredients are listed on the label below the rda %. (Proprietary blend). If it it 98% juice how can the first ingredient be water? The part with water etc are listed as OTHER ingredients. Meaning these aren't main ingredients – but necessary for the production of a product.
Dear not Kidding,
Youre absolutly right!
Here is the link directly to the article.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18220345?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
Fruit A Vie has both PJ (pomegranate juice) and grape juice high on the ingrediant list. Therefore a higher orac value!
I drank a bottle of Monavie at the insistance of a friend's wife (2 x 4oz per day) and was sick for the entire week. I felt dizzy and had headaches. It tasted like super sweet grape juice. The distributors all claim it helps them with all of their health issues…..while this magic juice is not unhealthy for you, it is very overpriced so it can fuel the MLM concept and make the top of the pyramid rich.
I was in Monavie for 6 months and also had over 20 personal's and 850 people in my downline BUT because everyone kept cancelling their monthly autoship of (2) cases minimum for full commission eligibility at $253.00 shipping included I had to find a better more affordable product.A short time ago my wife and I were introduced by a friend that was a gold whom left the Monavie biz for all the same reason's I did.The product is from a 200 million dollar debt free company that just joined the health biz a few month's ago and the product allows you to share with 30 people for about the same price as a bottle of Monavie with less shipping too because of the packaging with a better pay plan in my opinion and marketing website than Monavie without the rah rahs or home tastings ! contact info. Kent 909-593-4525 businessmonavie @gmail.com
Amway would be okay if they disclosed that you make most of your money from the training materials that your dowline buy. Without those there really is no hope in soap. So I would pick Monavie over Amway for sure. By the way what is up with all of these juice companies from off of Hwy 15 in UTAH? I thought Mitt Romney wasn't running anymore.
Monavie is a great product. It has helped many people. However it is also very expensive. I was a bronze in Monavie (120 distributors) before I discovered the 70% drop off rate. I finally chose to move to a new company (Kyani) that is not binary based and does not offer a signup fee of 39.00. The fact that you can get a healthy beverage at Wal-Mart is great, but for the most part – people join mlm's for the opportunity – not the product.
Let's be real about this. Anyone who has ever made any money in any mlm will tell you the real commodity in any mlm is your downline – not the product.
I agree with Ty – This will affect sales of Monavie. Monavie looks to be around for a long time as it has already surpassed the billion dollar a year mark. The question is will Monavie launch a new product – Probably. In conclusion, our health is the most vital asset we have – If someone wants to build a passive residual income then fruita Vie is not the answer – If someone wants to be more healthy then maybe Fuita Vie can help. As far as Amway – We should all be thankful for Amway as they have truly paved the way for all of us to enjoy the benefits that a good mlm company can provide!
Does anyone have the full ingredient list of fruitavie? How about information about the quality of the fruit? Is it tested for pesticides, herbicides, etc? This is a huge concern for me because it is well known that lots of mangosteen come from cultivated sources that are heavily contaminated with harmful substances. How do we know that the bottle isn't just a concentrated source of harmful chemicals from cheap fruit sources? That scares me.
"Thailand and the Philippines are the worlds largest suppliers of mangosteen fruit and also one of the biggest users of pesticides in the South Asia region. Most of the pesticides are imported;
73% fall into the WHO hazard categories I: Ia – extremely hazardous or Ib – highly hazardous.
A further 33% are category II – moderately hazardous.
The three main insecticides used are the organophosphates monocrotophos, methamidophos, and methyl parathion, all of which contain carcinogens and other pathogens. Human consumption of these pathogens, over time, could result in various deadly diseases.
The most nutritious part of the mangosteen is the pericarp (rind or skin) because of its rich xanthone content. Chemical pesticides sprayed on the mangosteen tree will contact the fruits, especially the skin. Determining how heavily sprayed the fruit is and what pesticides were used is often difficult because most companies get their pericarp from fruit canning companies. These companies can/bottle the pulp (white inner meat) and throw away the skin as “waste material,” which is then swept off the floor and sold to companies looking for pericarp. Since these large canning companies buy their fruits from many different farms, the quality of the pericarp will be inconsistent. The cleanliness of the factory floors is also a concern since most of these canning operations are in third-world countries."
Also, what lab has verified the ORAC? If the product is so great and comparable to Monavie, why isn't the internet abound with people reporting feeling better with their aches and pains. Why doesn't fruitavie have a website so I can learn about this product?
I am not some brainwashed Monavie distributor, but rather someone who has had great health results from the product. I feel good knowing that the product is tested for harmful chemicals. I had no intention of starting a business, but based on my experience people wanted some and the thing just snowballed. I now put time into it, but it has been a lot of fun. I tell people about it and if they are interested great then I show them how to set up an account. If not, then that is fine too. In the course of 6 months I am making a nice supplement to my professional mid 6 figure income. I recouped my cost in a month and now pay for my juice 40 times over each month. Of course, I know that Monavie is not some miracle juice, but rather a simple way to get quality fruits and antioxidants/phytonutrients into my system, which helps everything work better. That is priceless to me.
To comment on the study about the orac of the juices…acai juice is very different than freeze dried acai and the study was done on the acai juice. Monavie is not acai juice.
I found website by googling frut a vie duhh
http://fruitology4life.com/index.html
for all of you that think Mona Vie is a better product because it costs more, well, check this out. The reason why they charge so much is because they have to pay their distributors. For each case (4 bottles/case) being sold, by a downline distributors, the up line is making 10% of it. Let's say the distributor in the downline has 10 people above it, and they all qualified, they will each receive 10% of the case sold. A case costs between $120-$150 + shipping but commission is only based rounded to the least 100 integer. So Monavie has to pay $10 for each distributor in the upline. So on a case that was sold for ~$150, they have to give away $100. So, now try to figure out how much it really costs to make the juice !!!!!!!! I'm drinking Mona Vie right now but ready to switch over and try this Frut A Vie.
no duhh…I googled it as one word and it didn't come up…so thanks for the link. What a crummy website. There is no phone number for the company — a huge red flag. Didn't anyone ever tell you not to order anything off the internet if there was no phone number. Also, there is no address of the company — just the city and state. There is no ingredient list and there is no information about whether the fruit is wild or organic. There is no information about any testing of their product or the quality of the fruit. I wouldn't drink it if it were free!!! It is cheap because it is a cheap product…they definitely didn't spend any time or money designing a website or even hooking up phone service. My gut tells me that the same attention that went into the website went into the product. Also, regarding the breakdown of the payout for commissions. You forgot to mention that there is another leg for each person (that is bigger) that is not being paid out on. So your 10 dollars is at the most really 5 dollars, but in actuality much less because lots of people are drinking the juice for its benefits and not doing it as a business. Go ahead and put a juice in your body that is produced by a company that won't even publish their phone number — I care too much about my family's health to take that chance….Luckily, the price isn't an issue for me because I have a great job and I also get my juice for free many times over.
I've never tried Mona Vie and just recently heard about Fruit-A-Vie being sold in Costco stores. I believe this will truly have an affect on Mona Vie, maybe not a drastic one but yet still one. I'm pretty sure though that both juices are NOT bad for you in any way, but what I'm more interested in is the business side. Unless I was already in Mona Vie, I don't feel I could do a very good job of moving this product with Costco now selling something similar and cheaper. After looking into compensation plans there's only been one company that has truly caught my attention and their 'juice' is just has good (probably even better) than Mona Vie and Fruit-A-Vie. Not to mention it's protected by patents. And yes that's patents (with an 's'). Anyone interested in comparing please contact me. Awheeler360@yahoo.com
I have tried both of them. The bottom line for me (fifty year man) is that I don't have any pain in my body while I'm on a daily dose on MonaVie. Now that's priceless!
Here is a couple of things to think about. The acai berry is made up of about 50% good fats and loaded with fiber, along with a ton of other vitamins and minerals. If this new product did indeed have a significant amount of acai, you would see a % of fat and % of dietary fiber. There is also no vitamins listed. So it is obvious there is not as much acai. As far as the ORAC, it appears to be smoke in mirrors, it is either a flawed calculation or a calculation prior to processing. In the end if you have to label your ORAC score to try and lure customers, in my opinion that makes a person wonder. Also note that not all freeze dried acai is the same, I have seen ORAC scores as low as 400 per gram when the company is being honest and acutally tested there product. Many other companies use the ORAC of 1027 that was established thru science for the freeze dried acai that is used in Monavie. To my understanding no one else used the same process, which gives it its higher score.
It is also important to note that according to my sources the total ORAC score for Monavie per oz. is well over 3,000 with all the other fruits. Then another very important rating is the SOD (superoxide defusing) of which Monavie has a score of 400. So from the scientific research I have read, the freeze dried acai in Monavie has the highest ORAC score and SOD activity compared to any other fruit, and that is after processing.
I am sure people will buy this Fruit-A-vie knock off, but in the end quality speaks for itself, and quality produces results. Monavie has millions of people purchasing and enjoying the benifits, with only about 9% of then actually in it for the business opportunity. That along with the company passing a billion dollars in sales in just over 3 years, you really cannot argue that Monavie has a superior product, regardless of price. It all comes down to perceived value, $4.00-$8.00 a day for someone who wants to smoke is of value to them. Less then $5.00 per day to buy a product with the health benifits Monavie has, that is a great value to me, my health is priceless.
I encourage anyone to try Monavie for 30 days, create your own story about how you feel, but certainly do not judge anything without all the facts and experience needed to make the right choice for your health.
I hope my insights are helpful and are simply my opionions based on the research I have done.
What people need to realize is that the ORAC score MonaVie is claiming (scientifically tested) is for the acai berry alone. That is not including the other 18 fruits that they use. The other 18 fruits don't "just" add flavor or add to ORAC score. MonaVie purposefully selected the other 18 (fruits) which cover the entire color spectrum for a most potent combination of antioxidant power. Each color provides different anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties from chlorophyll, carotenoids and bioflavonoids. You can see the benefits of each color pigmentation here…http://deliciouslivingmag.com/food/dl_article_277/
As for the Fruita Vie, your basically buying a Hyundai, compared to a BMW with MonaVie…not to mention Fruitology's lack of originality in product naming.
Wow, I'm new to this and was asking and snoping around for information the acai berries. I am currently trying a bottle of Monavie, because a friend gave it to me and asked me to drink it for my health. So I'm trying it. I went to Monavie's website and it doesn't give me a whole lot of information. OH, I guess I should mention, I'm not a distributor for either juice. Yes, I agree that Monavie is a bit on the expensive side. I just happen to have been at Costco this weekend and notice Frut A Vie. I also notice the other bottles of health drinks around the Frut A Vie. A lot of them included the ORAC – thus made me look at this ORAC value more closely. Frut A Vie states it has an ORAC number of 3500 per oz or something like that. So I'm wondering about Monavie ORAC value. I can't find it. I'd looked for it on the website and can't really locate the ORAC nor was there a whole lot of information on the product. When my friend gave me the Monavie bottle, she also gave me the flyer with information on the product – Monavie – "19 Super Fruits For Better Health". I read it and look it over and over. I'm not a very trusting person. Well, I had agreed to try it. I'm still on the same bottle. I'm drinking two 2oz a day – once early in the morning and once later in the day. I'm not sure if it has any changes for me yet. I'm still having my health issues. Nothing major but still not seeing the benefits of it yet. I'm not an old person – still in the 30's. 🙂 I guess I need to drink more. Okay, now after reading pretty much all these posting/ comments, I'm actually a bit disappointed with a lot of the people promoting Monavie and some from the Frut a vie side. It seems really childish of all of you. It's a shame that you guys are not promoting the product but fighting back and forth on the compensation of these companies. I am not sure if I want to continue on with these drinks. Maybe, now that I know and gotten information on the acai berries, maybe I should just concentrate on just consuming that instead of these drinks. It really sad that you salespeople need to act like this in such a public arena.
Another thing, since I couldn't find the ORAC number for Monavie, I added all the ORAC value given in "19 Super Fruits For Better Health" and it adds up to 3011. But honestly, I'm not sure if Monavie contains all these fruits and vegetable – I don't think so but the fruits listed does not give an ORAC value. I'm searching the website for answers and came onto this one by accident. Instead of getting "useful" answers, I'm now more confused than ever. Am I drinking something that is actually healthy or some type of money scheme for another Joe? It is not a question of being able to afford or not for me. If there is another product that does the same thing or better at a lower price, then I'm all for it. But now, all I'm getting is, it not about the product but about how much someone gets and how the distributors are getting compensated. Just my 2 cents. But isn't this a guy's website and his opinion on Frut a vie? Why are the people selling Monavie feel threaten unless you should? Again, I don't work for either companies but as an outsider, when I read this type of arguing on this website, it only makes me think is the cheaper brand have the same effect as the more expensive brand?
I was searching for info on MonaVie because a friend is hounding me like a crazy, rabid dog. I have my answer. It's not about the product, it's about the money….sad….AND illegal. That's called a pyramid scheme people and if you are focusing on your downline and how many people you can get under you, you are participating in a pyramid. Don't you ever wonder why there are a few leaders at the top who make all the money? Don't you ever wonder why no one you know has gotted "rich" from a MLM? Why have a product at all, just collect the $39 from as many people as you can? If you are even considering joining, sit back, sip some wine and check back with your friend/relative trying to get you to enroll in about 6 months, see if they are still hyped up on the product, company and upline and if they are filthy rich.
I am a MonaVie Distributor, and I plan to try frut a vie, as MonaVie is too expensive.
Also, MonaVie is not suppose to be sold on ebay, but it surely is.
I have emailed MonaVie Compliance Department numerous times, on the selling of MonaVie on Ebay.
I am ready to try frut a vie!
Wow the battles go on
The Monavie Spinoff in Sam's club comes from the manufacturer in Dallas that originally did the bottling for Noni. The minute Noni started their own Manufacturing Noni juice was in Costco. Part of the game of Marketing. Not pretty but not damaging to MLM Company. As a percentage of population Sam's Club and Costco are small.
Rod Cook – MLM Watchdog
http://www.mlmwatchdog.com
To whom ever wrote the cost of MonaVie is due to 10% commission to distributors is not correct. Not all cases sold have a 10% commission, plus your math is totally woring and in-correct.
But more importantly, if you're going to pay .68 cents per ounce or $17.00 for 25oz of Purified Filtered Water and Grape Juice and Apple Juice and some Natural Flavors that Might "Contain Acai" that is not processed properly, you might as well buy some typical "Juice" you will find at your grocery store for .06 or .07 cents per ounce. Why even bother buying FruitAvi?
The bottom line is Health Benefits. The ingredients is important and is one thing, what happens after your drink it and it goes in your body is even more important. The Nutrition the Bio-chemistry is what is most important, when you consume food.
FruitAvi is a me too product. Take a close look at the ingredients:
#1 – Purified Filtered Water ?
#2 – Grape Juice?
The rest of the juices you can buy at any grocery store for a lot less that $17.00 for 25 ounces which is approx. 0.68 cent per ounce. You can buy anyone of those juices at any grocery store for less than 0.10 cents per ounce.
Oh, the high ORAC score on FruitAvi is basically Vitamin E. Has nothing to do with anti-oxidants.
I sure learn alot by reading these blogs… Btw, I'am a distributor with Monavie and here is my 2 cents.
Would I like to pay less than 35.75 a bottle for a case of Monavie? Ofcourse! I pay it because I'm doing this for the opportunity of changing my life financially and for better health, a 3 year plan. Do I need to be a millionaire to be happy? No, but would maybe $15,000 a month in 3 years be ok for me to retire on? Yes. Anyhow, is there BS hype in this world we live in, ofcourse there is everyday! So what? To the guy who talks about a pyramid being illegal, yes pyramids are illegal because it's just a transfer of money, no product! MLM is "Multi Le vel Mar ket ing" say it with me… It means you can be paid on different levels? Get it? and they have a product d*mb d*mb! Btw, the CEO and founder of Monavie is the head something or other in regards to MLM's and has spoke to congress many times about the correct and truthful ways of the MLM biz, gee if it's illegal why are they still around? Hmmm? The real pyramids are the jobs people go to everyday, will you ever make more than the CEO you work for? No, do you make more than your boss, not likely… Next point, one thing I noticed about the fruitology site, they part the acai seed from the rest of the fruit, they don't use the seed… 90% of the acai berry is seed and that's where most of the nutrients are! Monavie doesn't throw away anything nor do they clarify their product, which means they don't filter it so it appears more appealing to the consumer. The facts speak for themselves, Monavie has been around for 4 years now, a Billion dollar company, they are in numerous countries and have sold more then 50 million bottles of the Monavie juice with many people who are off their meds because of it… The truth cannot be denied! Say what you want, drink what you want… who gives a flying hoot? I do know this, alot of people wear Nike shoes and T-shirts everyday and you advertise their products. Does Nike pay you every Friday or give you shoes for free for your hard earned dollars that you've spent to advertise their products, when we all know those d*mn shoes arent worth the money you paid? C'mon people, wake up… Those shoes cost $5.00 to make in some sweat shop overseas, you pay the high prices to support the pro's that Nike supports, well Monavie does the same darn thing! We pay the high price to support the pro's in our business!! You work 40+ hours a week to support the CEO who's gonna rob you blind anyhow. For all you penny pinchers and nay sayers, you can drink the walmart and costco stuff. I'm sticking with Monavie! Monavie for life! Btw, they are coming out with a new product that's gonna blow the shorts off the…??? and blow up our business that much more! If Frut a Vie really had a great product, they wouldn't be riding the coat tails of Monavie!
Wow. It looks like this post has made some Mona Vie people a little angry. Well what can you do? When Wal-Mart see's something that is going to make them money, they jump on it. It's the same as when they first started to grow. All the small mom and pop businesses shut down. It's sad, but look at the average American. We can't afford a bottle of fruit juice for $40 or more. No matter how good it is. So if Mona Vie really had something like no one else, then they would do everthing in their power to compete with Wal-Mart. There are dozens of juices out there in the MLM world and Wal Mart could have chosen any one of them to create a product similar too to sell in their stores. If anything Mona Vie people should be proud that their product is thought so highly off.
Well I can't get Walmart's product where I live. So I drink Mona•Vie. Also just because you have the same juices in a bottle (if they do) doesn't mean you get the same effect. Mona•Vie is a whole food. Is Walmart's product? Also the ORAC score might be different, but anyone who knows their science wants to know about the total package. For example do we have a plant derived glucosamine in the bottle for our joints? Do we have the same level of phytonutrients in the bottle? Who designed the blend? What background do they have? Have a look at Dr Alex Schauss' background! Look at the work he was doing 30 years ago with heroin addicts. Or look at the work and research he does today with different indigenous people both inside the USA and overseas. Some of these Doctors have invested their lives in nutritional study to improve people's lives. I hope that Walmart's product helps people, but I doubt it will affect to much of Mona•Vie's business since over 90% of their market doesn't have a Walmart to shop at. When I consider my experience as a heart patient, my mother's experience as a neurology patient and the improvements we have both seen on Mona•Vie, for the sake of a few bucks I am not going to risk it even if I could shop at Walmart. Did I mention that Mona•Vie deliver it to my door down here in New Zealand as well. Oh, and did we forget how much Mona•Vie and their distributors have already invested in South America and their community to assist the hundreds of thousands of at risk children, adolescents and families.
While Mona•Vie and their distributors are doing all this what is Walmart doing for the communities they target? Let's see here is a recent example,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-norman/wal-marts-wetback-problem_b_202829.html.
On May 7, 2009, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) filed a lawsuit against Wal-Mart, charging that latino workers had been subjected to a hostile work environment at their Fresno store. This was the last resort for EEOC.
And another,
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS96423+21-Jul-2008+PRN20080721.
I quote 'Wal-Mart, long known for damaging communities . . .' In reality Wal-Mart has one of the poorest records of the top 150 companies for social justice. Their attitude has been give us your money but . . . Well there is lot's of buts!
When it comes to social justice Mona•Vie is in a different league. Competition is a good thing, and when the biggest company in the world attempts to copy your product, well 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'. But with any imitation, it is nothing more than a cheaper knock off. Shopping on price is not the wisest thing to do when it comes to your personal health! Sometimes the price is a little more, because it IS justified, and it is REAL value!
No comparison, you get what you pay for. Mona Vie is more expensive because it is more potent,better product=more money. fruit a vie is obviously trying to ride some of Mona Vies success, look at the name. . . strange they are very similar. wonder why? First ingredient is water in fruit a vie. enough said.
I just read this blog today after talking with a friend. I only have one question for all of you Frut a Vie fans. How can Mona Vie own the “proprietary freeze dried puree” process and have Wal-Mart advertise the same thing on their website? It sounds like Wal-Mart is desperately needing some sales in tough times. Even my friend that drinks Frut a Vie says it doesn’t taste as good as Mona VIe.
GO FIGURE!!!
Lighten up Guys, I have been with Forever Living Products, the Aloe Vera Company for 15 years.
You can find ALOE everywhere and in everything, but yet We Still managed to have 2.5 BILLION in Sales.
1) we do have a patented process even the FDA Lab in NY called our ALOE “essentially identical” to a raw leaf.
2) if your product is good and the marketing plan sustainable then you shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
🙂
Wow… Lighten up! It’s just juice!
Well is MonaVie was product driven then that might be the case but it is business/money driven. That’s why product competition is not that much of a threat to an mlm.
Ok people, hears the whole truth and nothing but the turth. There is NO magic out there. Nothing is going to make us healthy other than exercise and a proper diet. And there are no guarantees with that. MLM companies are simply a way to make money. Any and all products that ride on that train are subject to their system of movement. Sometimes it moves fast and furious and sometimes it just stops. All of our bodies are made the same, age the same, and eventually die. There have been discovers over the years that offer improvement in our lives, however, You can believe that all of us will become aware of anything that really does work, and something that really works should work for us all.
I really like the Frut a vie, my co worker has done the Mona vie and switched to Frut a vie. The sugar content is 1g difference and we both noticed the same effects from the two.
Mangosteen is not good for your health when you drink too much of it. that being said, I would much prefer the monavie as it does not contain mangosteen. Fruitology also has a juice that is 90% acai juice .. blended with water and cane sugar. But really, you would need alot more than cane sugar to make acai taste decent, it really does not have tons of flavor on it’s own, which is why it is a good berry to blend with other berries and fruits.
.. to each his own tho. I don’t know why people (monavie distributors included) are getting sobent out of shape .there are TONS of acai products on the market.. go with what you like..
sam’a club and stiff this up their butt Mona-vie has a better taste and gives ur body the nutrients it needs
i felt lazy after i drank the “fruit avie”
I tried the juice from Mona Vie and when I wanted more I purchased Fruit A vie. It is not as Good as Mona Vie.
It did not work. I am not back on The good Juice from a Mona Vie Rep.
Too bad they both have added chemicals and preservatives…not going into my body! NO THANKS!
I believe that Acai has a lifespan…especially MonaVie. There are new berries and technology available that blow this out of the water.
monavie caused me health problems, if you are going through some problems with bleeding please contact me now, ecm1250@yahoo.com. i have a list you want beleive.
there is no product on this earth that compares to natural fruit and veg, that GOD put here for us to eat, Genises 1-29 man will lead you to a place you dont want to be. do natural juicing use as many green products as posible and live a good and long life.
The reality is that Monavie is basically over in the US for now. With gas prices and unemployment both going up people are not spending money on the stuff. Only the well off, the hyper health crazed, and those poor desperate Monavie distributors trying to buy enough to “qualify” for thier comission are still buying it. I actually like the product and did feel beter when I was drinking it. It’s just not going to survive unless the financial crisis ends soon. I have seen distributors that were making 5K a month with huge downlines that are now fighting to make 500$ a month because everyone quit buying the stuff. (Yes, I was a distributor for over 2 years and had about 50 people in my downline – problem was no one bought the juice because it was too expensive)
I have a bit of a problem with any company that requires it’s “distributors” to buy a set limit of the product personally in order to get paid. If you can enroll tons of people as clients or distributors you should be paid based on that and not paid only if you shell out your 3 or 4 hundered dollars a month to stay “qualified”. Imagine if you worked for Chevron and had to show your gas recipts each month to prove you bought Chevron gas in order to recieve a paycheck!
If you have no money problems then go ahead and get involved in Monavie, like I said, I did feel better. If you are struggeling to pay your bills and someone tries to get you involved – run like heck! It will add 3 to 4 hundred a month to your problems and end up causing a financial hardship. Just eating right and staying fit will keep you feeling great too.
Last thing – Does anyone remember a product called Seasilver? FDA shut them down because of all the miricle health claims made by the distributors. Not claims made by the company, but by distributors. Monavie is destined for the same issues. I have seen people claim it cured someone of cancer, aids, acne, diabetes and almost every health issue you can think of but I have never actually seen the person that was cured. Just the person telling the story about someone else. Where are the cured people?
Doug I want to thank you for how honest you are! The world needs more people like you who are concerned and interested in helping other people.
Doug,
I mainly wanted to point out your Chevron idea. Granted, if you own a Chevron Station, you aren’t made to get your gas there BUT let your customers find out you are buying your gas from your competition? I bet you won’t last long because your customers will ask well what is wrong with your gas if the owner won’t even use it?
hi all,my name is artie huff jr and i am a herbalife independent distributor and i am so glade that i don’t have that problem.any who no our company knows that their products are just what they say they are and our company give even unemployed people a real chance to start a very profitable business.i will work anyone that want a real chance to better their health and their financial future.
The Monavie product does have a few high price points that Wal-Mart seems to have learned to exploit.
Nice prediction jerk.
We’re still in business and making a ton of money.
Nice.
Heh. You really want to go there?
MonaVie is probably down 60% in U.S. volume over the last 18 months.
I became a part of Monavie in 2008, and after I found out that they had over one million distributors, learned that their flush binary plan was not going to work for me, since I did not learn about them n the beginning, I moved on. In their defense they have helped a lot of people move into the high five, six and seven figure incomes, providing them trips and more. Walmart on the other hand is one of my favorite stores, but they want to compete with companies like Monavie, because they want to control and continue to employe peoples time/talent for their terrible wages, and whats bad, people have bought into the economy is in an economic downturn and I have to except what all these companies provide, because even if they go back to school, it is not an asset to their future but now a liability, based on there may not even be a job for the new skills they now have, and student loans will take years to pay, unless the company they were downsized from threw in something to include the state. I applaud all network marketing companies no matter which one they may be, because they allow a person to make an unlimited exra income based on the merits of their works all from the comforts of their homes. Walmart will in return make you an area, district or some type of other postion of responsibility, make you work seventy hours plus, 401k and if your performance evaluation is not up to their expectation, demote you or even terminate you, not worth it. Roll backs is what they say they give, that is b.s., everyone knows they buy in mass quanities, so they can fool a fool. lol. I am now with Xyngular and doing well, because Xyngular offers a 30 day money back guarantee, Our Company Pays You Daily Plus, Everyone Gets Spillover, 12% Cumulative Bonus Pools 100% Money Back Guarantee. No Structural Requirements or Restrictions. No Pain-In-The-Butt Qualifying Legs. No Inside Lesser Legs To Be Stranded and Abandoned In. No Need To Fake Prosperity. No Car Allowance Gimmicks, THIS Will Be a Billion Dollar Company,No Kidding,No-Brainer.
Ty, Wow what a posting…….
Let me first say, I am not currently or have I ever been a Mona Vie Rep.
My hat goes of to the company for introducing a good product with perfect timing using the vehicle MLM. Their records say enough to validate them as one of the “big dogs” in our industry.
I am really on the fence after reading this posting…….. Wal-mart is basically doing what they do best. Gobbling up competition by offering a a similar product at a discounted price. Hate them if you like ( I do ), but thanks to the exact same freedom we are all entitled too, they are making a dent in Mona Vie’s business……
Now, the inner MLM loving part of me is really surprised and sickened at the blatant attack that Wal-mart is obviously making against both the company and the MLM industry.
Great posting, I will be posting this on my blog and sharing with as many people as possible.
Just a note get your facts correct Monavie is 1800 per gram not 1027 per ounce so that means that if there are 28grams to an ounce Monavie is 50400 per ounce and Fruit a vie is only 125 per gram Just thought I would let you know thanks tony.
Have you ever drank a gram of MonaVie? Answer is no. The per gram number is misleading at best, a lie at worst because they are talking about the powder that is used to produce the product that is later watered down.
Try both products, because the proof is in the Pudding! I know that “Mona Vie” is more expensive, but it just works better. The dosage and product is just better because of how they create and refine their product. I’ve tried them both and I just flat feel & live better with the “Mona Vie”. I tried all kinds of Acai Berry supplements to raise the immune system because I have COPD and Asthma. If I get another lung infection I may not survive it again. My brother had cancer and by the Grace of God and the use of this product, he has been cancer free since the cancer was removed. People need to remember one thing, “You get what you pay for”! I care too much about my, the family’s and everyone’s health to go with cheap products. Decide for yourself. That is the great thing about being “Human”.
Monavie has greatly improved my hip pain. Antioxidants are amazing. I have reviewed university studies on the benefits of the acai berrry and Monavie has the purrest most antioxidant around. They have patents on the process. I highly recommend Monavie to everyone for your health!
Never heard of this product. Danny has been talking about it too.