A funny guy was using my name and posting comments here at the MLM Blog. I do not delete very many comments, but I do delete comments that are deceptive.
One thing from the persons comments struck me. He said that I should give Quixtar credit for doing a billion in sales. I think I have given Quixtar credit. Here are a couple of quotes from me about Quixtar’s recent sales:
"The (Quixtar) sales numbers are huge…"
and
"Is that (Quixtar Sales) good?
Quick answer is yes. A billion in sales is great."
Now here is where the little imposter gets confused. He says, that no other MLM does a billion in sales in a year.
Silly imposter boy. You don’t read much, do you? Avon did $2.6 Billion in sales last quarter, yes I said quarter, (that would be 25% of a year).
I am also pretty sure that Herbalife does well over a billion, (over $2 Billion, actually).
As a matter of fact, Mary Kay Cosmetics does more volume in the United States than Quixtar does in the U.S. and Canada combined.
Silly MLMer. You are twisting facts which is of course easy to do once you delete my posts. I believe my statement was that I do not know of too many… Besides, once again you failed to address the other points made.
Deceptive is how words are taken out of context after they are deleted.
…or "I don't know of any other…" Something to that effect. I did not memorize my words. I just know that I did not explicitly state that Quixtar was the only one to do a billion. Please have the courage to repost my words (edit-free) so your viewers will see for themselves
Enjoy:
"I know of no other MLM company with over a billion in sales in a year."
If the imposter would like to have a real debate, he can send me an email at ty (at) tribble.org.
I am happy to post opinions on this site that differ from mine, but I do not put up with deceptive anonymous comments.
Things I have spoke of ARE true. There are people with agendas who hop from one LOS in different companies to an LOS in another. They are apart of every new MLM startup (or most) that happen. If you are innocent… fine. It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. But by itself, there is nothing wrong with it. Unless the distributors who do it are doing it by playing on the emotions of struggling distributors. It is hard to be King of the Hill. That is why everyone attacks Amway/Quixtar. Remember, I am a former distributor who quit and does not blame the business. I have no agenda, Ty.
If you have no agenda, why would you pretend to be me in your comments?
I don't think that I have ever blamed Amway/Quixtar for not getting past 4,000PV.
I am simply saying that there are better options, today.
You can not argue with the fact that Quixtar pays out 30.4% and that number is less than the average for the top 30 companies (37.4%).
Next you can not argue that Quixtar has one of the worst reputation in Network Marketing.
Throw in the price of the products and you have what adds up to a bad business opportunity.
I don't argue that Amway innovated, but this is the year 2007, not 1959. Things change.
ok… slight agenda. This site in my opinion is a Quixtar-hate site that does everything but scream out the words: "I am bitter because it didn't work for me!" Because (just my opinion) you seem to contradict yourself by saying you don't hate Quixtar and yet most new visitors to your site would walk away with that feeling based upon the postings. This made me want to antagonize you until you finally admitted it. So, that was my agenda.
I take your silence to mean that you agree
My liking or disliking Quixtar is irrelevant when considering whether or not Quixtar is a good business opportunity.
I report news about Quixtar and I comment on things that I find interesting.
If someone is looking to get involved with Quixtar, (or any MLM company) I suggest they consider the following:
1. Current growth rate
2. Percentage payout back to IBOs
3. Points to Dollar Ratio
4. Product pricing
5. Company reputation
How do you think Quixtar stacks up against other companies in the industry in those areas?
You say it is irrelevant, but if I had to venture a guess that if your first false start at an MLM had been with a different company you would be "just reporting" on that company as well. I am not going to attempt to throw around numbers and debate the details of things that only a blogger would have time to research. I am more than happy to debate philisophically (I may have misspelled that… oops).
1) Growth rate… look what happenned when cable companies got into telecom when the industry was deregulated in 1996. It is easy to grow as the alternative to the monopolies of the world (or in this case Quixtar). Cox, Comcast, and others played upon the common complaints of those who were unhappy with Ma Bell and her descendants (ie. struggling distributors). So if your new company or hundreds other "never heard of ya" MLMs are growing… so what? You should be based on logic I just stated. To be stable admist this is admirable.
2) & 3) Quixtar has such a larger mix of products than most(I said most!) MLM companies that because some products are less profitable than others that it will skew this number, kind of like the liberal media and their polls.
4) So the products are a little high. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF YOU HURRY UP AND BUILD YOUR BUSINESS. "Growth fixes everything"
5) Reputation… I explained that already. They are King of the Hill. At least they have a reputation. The average person has heard of Amway. I never heard of most of the names that's listed on the post of Alexa rankings until I saw this site. But there is further explanation in a post that no longer exists. 🙂
I'm really not sure what you are saying.
Are you saying that we should ignore the facts and sign up with Quixtar because they are stable?
Granted, a billion in sales is admirable, but a billion doesn't mean much when you are 1000PV and spending more than you are making on tools.
no. I am saying that your points are explained away easily.
I plan to restart my Quixtar business. It will be "system-less" meaning outside of the standard system model. Free Training System…My own LLC… downline signing independent contractor agreements with the LLC… with no mention of the Corp until they are close to 7500 PV. I will pay bonuses true to the plan out of my bonus check like ol' Amway. This way my upline won't know I even have downline and go around me to meddle with MY System which I am still developing.
Interesting.
Now you are saying that the business is so corrupt that you can not trust your upline enough to plug them into the regular Quixtar business.
Alrighty then.
I wish you the best of luck with that.
Would you like to write a complete outline of your system and post it here on my blog?
Mock me if you will… I do not say it is corrupt. For one, the system and Quixtar are separate entities. Two… I am still developing it… printable sales collateral, A printable basic catalog, scripts, etc. Once the material is complete then it is nothing more than a set of files that can be printed. The sales collateral is easy. Also there will be accessible resources on other methods to build an MLM and I will simply recommend the methods I believe work best for me. I have experience in selling. It is my trade. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Unforetunately, not all uplines agree. I believe that everybody has uniques skills they bring to the table, but only certain skills work in certain systems. Therefore a "system-less system" has merit. There's your outline, smarty. In all seriousness, do you see what I mean?
So, why would you put all of this effort into a company that has some of the most expensive products, one of the least lucrative compensation plans and the worst reputation?
I understand what you are trying to do but I do not understand the logic.
Others have tried the system-less system before and no one has made it work (to the Platinum level).
See:
mlminformer.com (now with MLM Agel)
makingtherun.com (Ghost town)
ontheroadwithdave.com (still at it)
I don't know what you saw. Upon merely skimming the sites all I sa w was 2 blogs. It's kind of hard to build a business when one just sits around and posts blogs. I know… this is just my second day and already it's trying to addict me…
I saw nothing resembling what I had in mind. Remember I plan to use Quixtar solely as my distributor… nothing more…
There is plenty of time to figure out how to keep the legacy system IBOs at bay once I legitimize my Directs on the way to Platinum.
I know… I will show them your blog.
Those sites are run by people that have tried to build Quixtar with a system-less system
There is also someone named "Tex" doing the same thing.
Here is a link to an interview with the guy. He has beenin 10 years and never got past 1000PV.
I hope you make it work. I really do. It will make great news.